Meli Manglers Need Help - Page 4

Schip · 11-01-2005, 15:38

Meli, when buying trainees it does pay off to look for inadequate / passable passing.
They are more expensive of course, but they will sell higher and easier when your training is complete. Remember to train them for 2+ seasons, selling them at excellent is usually to soon. At the moment the 'big' jump in revenue is between excellent and formidable. This is moving upwards. More and more people are looking for outstanding playmakers.

edit: stupid typo

Melifluous · 11-01-2005, 16:30

OK So its starting.

I currently have 12 players on the transfer list all with a starting price of 0.

As and when time allows I'll be knocking players off the "Fire me I suxor" list.

Training changed to Playmaking.

Lineup set for friendly tomorrow including new trainees.

Notes for self now include a warning not to play any trainees in any position other than Midfield

Roddy Carroll keeps his place in the squad

Aatmaj Ventakaramanathingy was last seen playing golf. His days of glory are clearly over.

Melifluous

ProPain · 11-01-2005, 16:36

@english brit

Took a quick glance at buying and selling prices (in euros)

excellent (18 yrs, buy) PM : 325K Keeper : 475K
brilliant (21 yrs, sell) PM : 1900K Keeper : 2400K
magnificent (21 yrs, sell) PM: 2600K keeper : 3400K

when you train 2 keepers or 6 midf. that results in
briliant PM: 385K/week keeper : 254K/week
magnificent PM: 450k/week keeper : 297K/week

So you're right PM has bigger potential. However I also took a look at selling speed (using transfer compare) and the last 10 keepers sold were all done in the last 3 days, last 10 PM's sold went back to november.

Also keepertraining is 15/20 weeks respectively and pm is 24/30 weeks. So you should take into account also the higher inflation risk. Hard to put an amount on too, though.

This was just a quick look, I'll be looking into the matter more thoroughly when I'm done training a keeper and move back to the outfield again. Prices are constantly changing though, I;m pretty sure magni keeper prices were a bit lower a weeks ago.

Melifluous · 11-01-2005, 16:46

Bought a Solid/Poor coach as well.

Harald Snogdal (Danish)

All change please!

Melifluous

English_brit · 11-01-2005, 16:54

Yep PP. There's pros and cons of doing both. I personally like training playmaking as midfield strength is so important to winning games. Plus you can still alter your tactics alot using offensive slants down one wing and another winger TM or when midfield strength is a must two WTM's. It gives me great flexibility which I like.

I've never trained keeping (well apart from one week to get a keeper to pop) so been interesting reading some of your pro's about training it, not all of which I'll admit to having taken in to account. But I'm still happy with my playmaking training.

If I didn't train playmaking I'd probably train scoring as I see it as the 2nd most important area in a team. Only problem is I don't like many of the formations it means you have to use, it's limiting.

English_brit · 11-01-2005, 16:55

Nice going Meli. What type coach? (fond of attacking, neither attack or defensive minded or defensive)

English_brit · 11-01-2005, 16:57

Ah, just looked. Fond of attacking. Got the right one. [

ProPain · 11-01-2005, 17:07

@english brit, I totally agree with the flexibility training PM offers. Most of the time you'll be playing 3-5-2 so it's making optimal use of available training spots in your normal league games also.

Also I don't really care what I train from a gameplay point of view, I mainly care about profitability and minimising loss risk. My philosophy: if I train the most profitable positions I can buy players on other positions quicker. Also I look at the biggest gaps in my team as my trainees are often as good or better as my current players. That way I can improve my current performance faster, earn money and keep a few trainees to improve my squad (very much needed). This sure will change when I've reached a more stable setting for my team, then profitabilty will be the main point of interest.

English_brit · 11-01-2005, 17:14

Yeah, my main interest is the money aswell. Just have to agree to disagree on the best way to do it.

That's the whole fun of Hattrick though really.

Melifluous · 11-01-2005, 17:17

OK So that leaves me with one last dilema.

Should I promote or not this season?

Tough one that I'm gonna have to think about.

Melifluous

11-01-2005, 16:30	#32
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	OK So its starting. I currently have 12 players on the transfer list all with a starting price of 0. As and when time allows I'll be knocking players off the "Fire me I suxor" list. Training changed to Playmaking. Lineup set for friendly tomorrow including new trainees. Notes for self now include a warning not to play any trainees in any position other than Midfield Roddy Carroll keeps his place in the squad Aatmaj Ventakaramanathingy was last seen playing golf. His days of glory are clearly over. Melifluous __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

11-01-2005, 16:36	#33
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	@english brit Took a quick glance at buying and selling prices (in euros) excellent (18 yrs, buy) PM : 325K Keeper : 475K brilliant (21 yrs, sell) PM : 1900K Keeper : 2400K magnificent (21 yrs, sell) PM: 2600K keeper : 3400K when you train 2 keepers or 6 midf. that results in briliant PM: 385K/week keeper : 254K/week magnificent PM: 450k/week keeper : 297K/week So you're right PM has bigger potential. However I also took a look at selling speed (using transfer compare) and the last 10 keepers sold were all done in the last 3 days, last 10 PM's sold went back to november. Also keepertraining is 15/20 weeks respectively and pm is 24/30 weeks. So you should take into account also the higher inflation risk. Hard to put an amount on too, though. This was just a quick look, I'll be looking into the matter more thoroughly when I'm done training a keeper and move back to the outfield again. Prices are constantly changing though, I;m pretty sure magni keeper prices were a bit lower a weeks ago. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

11-01-2005, 16:46	#34
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	Bought a Solid/Poor coach as well. Harald Snogdal (Danish) All change please! Melifluous __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

11-01-2005, 17:07	#38
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	@english brit, I totally agree with the flexibility training PM offers. Most of the time you'll be playing 3-5-2 so it's making optimal use of available training spots in your normal league games also. Also I don't really care what I train from a gameplay point of view, I mainly care about profitability and minimising loss risk. My philosophy: if I train the most profitable positions I can buy players on other positions quicker. Also I look at the biggest gaps in my team as my trainees are often as good or better as my current players. That way I can improve my current performance faster, earn money and keep a few trainees to improve my squad (very much needed). This sure will change when I've reached a more stable setting for my team, then profitabilty will be the main point of interest. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

11-01-2005, 17:17	#40
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	OK So that leaves me with one last dilema. Should I promote or not this season? Tough one that I'm gonna have to think about. Melifluous __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

11-01-2005, 15:38	#31
Schip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 289	Meli, when buying trainees it does pay off to look for inadequate / passable passing. They are more expensive of course, but they will sell higher and easier when your training is complete. Remember to train them for 2+ seasons, selling them at excellent is usually to soon. At the moment the 'big' jump in revenue is between excellent and formidable. This is moving upwards. More and more people are looking for outstanding playmakers. edit: stupid typo

11-01-2005, 16:54	#35
English_brit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: . Posts: 393	Yep PP. There's pros and cons of doing both. I personally like training playmaking as midfield strength is so important to winning games. Plus you can still alter your tactics alot using offensive slants down one wing and another winger TM or when midfield strength is a must two WTM's. It gives me great flexibility which I like. I've never trained keeping (well apart from one week to get a keeper to pop) so been interesting reading some of your pro's about training it, not all of which I'll admit to having taken in to account. But I'm still happy with my playmaking training. If I didn't train playmaking I'd probably train scoring as I see it as the 2nd most important area in a team. Only problem is I don't like many of the formations it means you have to use, it's limiting.

11-01-2005, 16:55	#36
English_brit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: . Posts: 393	Nice going Meli. What type coach? (fond of attacking, neither attack or defensive minded or defensive)

11-01-2005, 16:57	#37
English_brit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: . Posts: 393	Ah, just looked. Fond of attacking. Got the right one. [

11-01-2005, 17:14	#39
English_brit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: . Posts: 393	Yeah, my main interest is the money aswell. Just have to agree to disagree on the best way to do it. That's the whole fun of Hattrick though really.