Meli Manglers Need Help - Page 3

Melifluous · 11-01-2005, 14:21

First Purchase Made. A Massive £2670 paid!

Code:

Anton Dzhugashvili (51019978)  
17 years, passable form, healthy  
A nasty fellow who is temperamental and honest. 
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities. 

Nationality:  Israel  
Total Skill Index (TSI):   410 
Wage:  379 £/week  
Owner:  Makers Of Mayhem  
Warnings:  0  


Stamina:    inadequate Goaltending: disastrous   
Playmaking: passable   Passing:     poor   
Winger:     inadequate Defending:   disastrous   
Scoring:    poor       Set Pieces:  wretched

English_brit · 11-01-2005, 14:22

I'd say a squad of around 22 players should cover you easily. A player as cover for each position. So if you decide to train playmaking you'll be playing with a 3-5-2, so 2 keepers, 6 defenders, 10 midfielders and 4 strikers.

So you need to decide on your first team and reserve lineup. Then sell players you don't need.

I don't think you've said how many assistant coaches you have but you need to get the maximum complement asap.

1. Get coach
2. Get trainees
3. Get the 8 and 2 or 9 and 1 compliment of assistant coaches (as and when you can afford it)

Then it's a case of waiting till the trainees are ready to sell. Use any surplus money over the seasons to strengthen other areas of your team as and when it becomes available or expand your stadium, improve number of spokespeople etc.

Schip · 11-01-2005, 14:24

throwing the game by not fielding enough players will cost you 10% of your supporters, so try not to do it that way. Also losing the last two matches could cost you about 40 sups as well, though they did change that formula yesterday.

There is quite some debate going on about good teams NOT promoting because they can earn more money in lower divisions. Some think it is not ethical. Well, whatever you want. Ideallisticly I would like to play as high as possible. But I didn't look at any of the Engllish divisions so I don't know if you stand a chance.

Melifluous · 11-01-2005, 14:32

OK Thanks for the advice all.

Arena is currently as big as it needs to be I think, I can fit nearly 36,000 people into it

Assistants? I already had 8 and 2. Just upped no. of physios to 10.

New Coach will have to wait until after the last match of the season when I will have the money

Melifluous

Kingreno · 11-01-2005, 14:34

I have to agree with Schip. The idea is to always play as high as possible. I promoted to 6th in Holland last year while another year in the 7th would have appeared more profitable back then. I am very glad I chose to go for promotion since the 6th I came in, gave me enough chances to stay up (and I did). Also, supporters are not too harsh in your first years in a higher division! so...go up!
but....It is your party!

Melifluous · 11-01-2005, 14:42

Ok 2 more trainees bought in quick succession.

Code:

Octave Germain (50884418)  
17 years, passable form, healthy  
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest. 
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities. 


Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality:  België  
Total Skill Index (TSI):   280 
Wage:  429 £/week  including 20% Bonus  
Owner:  Meli's Manglers  
Warnings:  0  


Stamina:    passable   Goaltending: disastrous   
Playmaking: passable   Passing:     weak   
Winger:     wretched   Defending:   weak   
Scoring:    poor       Set Pieces:  disastrous

and

Code:

Stephen Mottram (49356452)   
17 years, solid form, bruised, but playing  
A sympathetic guy who is tranquil and upright. 
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities. 


Speciality: Quick

Nationality:  England  
Total Skill Index (TSI):   450 
Wage:  357 £/week  
Owner:  Meli's Manglers  
Warnings:  0  


Stamina:    inadequate Goaltending: disastrous   
Playmaking: passable   Passing:     poor   
Winger:     poor       Defending:   inadequate   
Scoring:    poor       Set Pieces:  poor

English_brit · 11-01-2005, 14:43

Not a bad player Meli. Although try to get ones without disastrous or wretched secondaries if you can afford it. The rest of is good though.

As for not promoting if you don't want to. I ain't got any problems or qualms with doing it. Everyone knows to do well in Hattrick you need to make money.

If the Hattrick coders can't write a game with enough incentive for you to promote due to it's repurcussions then that's their fault. If you win your league, you've earned the write to do whatever you want to do. If you decide it's in your best interests not to promote then so be it.

If there was more prize money etc etc for promoting or more roll off repurcussions then people wouldn't feel the need to throw games.

It's a flaw in the game and you can't blame players for doing what's in their best interests.

English_brit · 11-01-2005, 14:47

Nice but Unpredictable and Quick ain't the best specialities for an inner midfielder though.

Quote:

quote:Inner midfields - powerful is rather good, but not as good as for defenders (gains defending and playmaking in rain, but gets more tired in sun, which is important). Unpredictable is rather bad (playmakers have worse defending, especially in teams with good players). Quick is bad (a little, they only lose defending in rain). Technical is neutral. Head is rather good (no penalty; corners). Edit: head playmakers are also a subject to special events made by technical wingers or forwards. Check in this game: 8408757. Thanks to our Spanish friend rgomila (PuroFisico (123598)) for pointing me to that match.

Dell19 · 11-01-2005, 14:52

The downside is that I know an active team that promoted last year to a difficult V league and has lost every game even though they have been training all season and get about 120 now on hatstats. Obviously there are easier divisions to promote to but its a gamble. If you could get to play a qualifier then you can check out the V league that you expect to promote to and if its too difficult then you could consider throwing that game as well.

You could play a silly formation like 0-0-10 and hope that results in a defeat and missing out on training wouldn't be that bad.

On the new trainee, Anton Dzhugashvili, he seems to be not that bad but he lacks decent passing or defence as a second skill so he isn't amazing. If you can afford enough trainees to fill the normal slots then you could train him on the wing as playmaking training also trains wingers at 50%.

akots · 11-01-2005, 15:09

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by Melifluous
... Anton Dzhugashvili ...

Dzhugashvili was the real last name of Stalin.

Guess somebody is joking around with last names. This player ain't bringing no good imo.

11-01-2005, 14:21	#21
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	First Purchase Made. A Massive £2670 paid! Code: Anton Dzhugashvili (51019978) 17 years, passable form, healthy A nasty fellow who is temperamental and honest. Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities. Nationality: Israel Total Skill Index (TSI): 410 Wage: 379 £/week Owner: Makers Of Mayhem Warnings: 0 Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous Playmaking: passable Passing: poor Winger: inadequate Defending: disastrous Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

11-01-2005, 14:32	#24
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	OK Thanks for the advice all. Arena is currently as big as it needs to be I think, I can fit nearly 36,000 people into it Assistants? I already had 8 and 2. Just upped no. of physios to 10. New Coach will have to wait until after the last match of the season when I will have the money Melifluous __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

11-01-2005, 14:34	#25
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	I have to agree with Schip. The idea is to always play as high as possible. I promoted to 6th in Holland last year while another year in the 7th would have appeared more profitable back then. I am very glad I chose to go for promotion since the 6th I came in, gave me enough chances to stay up (and I did). Also, supporters are not too harsh in your first years in a higher division! so...go up! but....It is your party! __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

11-01-2005, 14:22	#22
English_brit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: . Posts: 393	I'd say a squad of around 22 players should cover you easily. A player as cover for each position. So if you decide to train playmaking you'll be playing with a 3-5-2, so 2 keepers, 6 defenders, 10 midfielders and 4 strikers. So you need to decide on your first team and reserve lineup. Then sell players you don't need. I don't think you've said how many assistant coaches you have but you need to get the maximum complement asap. 1. Get coach 2. Get trainees 3. Get the 8 and 2 or 9 and 1 compliment of assistant coaches (as and when you can afford it) Then it's a case of waiting till the trainees are ready to sell. Use any surplus money over the seasons to strengthen other areas of your team as and when it becomes available or expand your stadium, improve number of spokespeople etc.

11-01-2005, 14:24	#23
Schip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 289	throwing the game by not fielding enough players will cost you 10% of your supporters, so try not to do it that way. Also losing the last two matches could cost you about 40 sups as well, though they did change that formula yesterday. There is quite some debate going on about good teams NOT promoting because they can earn more money in lower divisions. Some think it is not ethical. Well, whatever you want. Ideallisticly I would like to play as high as possible. But I didn't look at any of the Engllish divisions so I don't know if you stand a chance.

11-01-2005, 14:43	#27
English_brit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: . Posts: 393	Not a bad player Meli. Although try to get ones without disastrous or wretched secondaries if you can afford it. The rest of is good though. As for not promoting if you don't want to. I ain't got any problems or qualms with doing it. Everyone knows to do well in Hattrick you need to make money. If the Hattrick coders can't write a game with enough incentive for you to promote due to it's repurcussions then that's their fault. If you win your league, you've earned the write to do whatever you want to do. If you decide it's in your best interests not to promote then so be it. If there was more prize money etc etc for promoting or more roll off repurcussions then people wouldn't feel the need to throw games. It's a flaw in the game and you can't blame players for doing what's in their best interests.

11-01-2005, 14:52	#29
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	The downside is that I know an active team that promoted last year to a difficult V league and has lost every game even though they have been training all season and get about 120 now on hatstats. Obviously there are easier divisions to promote to but its a gamble. If you could get to play a qualifier then you can check out the V league that you expect to promote to and if its too difficult then you could consider throwing that game as well. You could play a silly formation like 0-0-10 and hope that results in a defeat and missing out on training wouldn't be that bad. On the new trainee, Anton Dzhugashvili, he seems to be not that bad but he lacks decent passing or defence as a second skill so he isn't amazing. If you can afford enough trainees to fill the normal slots then you could train him on the wing as playmaking training also trains wingers at 50%.