Euro 2008 thread! - Page 2

BCLG100 · 10-06-2008, 00:18

No, he isnt. The ruling states, taken from someguy at cfc,

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...0708_10565.pdf
If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place
an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to
continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the #64257;eld
of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of
play.

Now Panucci or whoever it was definatly did not deliberatly leave the field of play, that much was obvious from the fact he was lying near the advertising hoarding. You can also argue about the step as he was pretty much punched out by buffon.

Matrix · 10-06-2008, 00:41

Yyyyyyesss!

I can't remember seeing Oranje playing this well for a long long time!

The first goal was unjustified IMO. Panucci was unintentionally out of commission and that shouldn't be a free ticket for all players of Oranje to ignore off-side.

Nevertheless, we scores no less than three times against notably Italy! And two of those goals are counters. They're beaten at their own game.

ProPain · 10-06-2008, 00:41

I think when goalkeepers punch out their defenders lights they rightfully deserve to be passed by Van Nistelrooy

But seriously, a win well deserved and great to see a play like this now. Haven't seen much of that from our boys the last few years. Seems my pessimism about dutch performance this tournament wasn't totally justified. Still 2 matches to go however, so let's wait how things progress before we really get drunk.

BCLG100 · 10-06-2008, 00:55

Can we just change the title of this thread to a generic euro thread? Debating at cfc is useless as its just people repeating what they've already said.

Markstar · 10-06-2008, 02:00

That was an impressive win by the Netherlands, they certainly looked better than any other team so far, even Germany. [

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It seems this might get quite interesting.

socralynnek · 10-06-2008, 08:56

We can do a thread for every game, bclg

Goal 2 and 3 were brillant. Especially as both were just 10 seconds after a big chance for Italy. How fast NL switched from defense to offense was really great.
And therefore it doesn't really matter whether first goal was offside or not.

Italy had a few good opportunities but that makes the well deserved win for NL even more impressing. It's not like they played vs a weak team.

Player of the match: van Bronckhorst or Pirlo (I think he was really strong despite his team being average)
Worst player: Zambrotta (he should have got 4 yellow cards for costant diving...)

Furiey · 10-06-2008, 09:16

There's a very big Italian community in my area so much of the Bedford area is not going to be happy, but that's not me. I don't really follow football, but well done Holland!

socralynnek · 10-06-2008, 15:40

BTW:

http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/news/kin...+goal+decision

Basically: The defender counts as being "in-game".
Doing it deliberately gets you a yellow card, doing it unintended still counts you as being in-game for as long as the game doesn't take a break.

So, UEFA officials suppport the referee.

BCLG100 · 10-06-2008, 17:28

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by socralynnek

BTW:

http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/news/kin...+goal+decision

Basically: The defender counts as being "in-game".
Doing it deliberately gets you a yellow card, doing it unintended still counts you as being in-game for as long as the game doesn't take a break.

So, UEFA officials suppport the referee.

My apologies, you were correct. However, i think that should have been offside and 999 times out 1000 it would have been.

My one worry for Holland is that quite often they tend to start strongly and never follow it up, same with the perenial underachievers Spain. Though it'd certainly be great for the neutral (me) if that didnt happen and everyone peaked towards the knockout stages.

Beam · 11-06-2008, 23:12

Quote:

quote:How fast NL switched from defense to offense was really great.

We never patented it and that's said nicely to the extreme.

I started to watch the game completely disinterested with about a quarter of an eye looking at the tube and after about 15 minutes for the first time in a decade I saw a team playing instead of a bunch of philty rich assholes!

10-06-2008, 00:18	#11
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	No, he isnt. The ruling states, taken from someguy at cfc, http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...0708_10565.pdf If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the #64257;eld of play without the referee’s permission when the ball is next out of play. Now Panucci or whoever it was definatly did not deliberatly leave the field of play, that much was obvious from the fact he was lying near the advertising hoarding. You can also argue about the step as he was pretty much punched out by buffon. __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

10-06-2008, 00:41	#12
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	Yyyyyyesss! I can't remember seeing Oranje playing this well for a long long time! The first goal was unjustified IMO. Panucci was unintentionally out of commission and that shouldn't be a free ticket for all players of Oranje to ignore off-side. Nevertheless, we scores no less than three times against notably Italy! And two of those goals are counters. They're beaten at their own game. __________________

10-06-2008, 00:41	#13
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	I think when goalkeepers punch out their defenders lights they rightfully deserve to be passed by Van Nistelrooy But seriously, a win well deserved and great to see a play like this now. Haven't seen much of that from our boys the last few years. Seems my pessimism about dutch performance this tournament wasn't totally justified. Still 2 matches to go however, so let's wait how things progress before we really get drunk. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

10-06-2008, 00:55	#14
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	Can we just change the title of this thread to a generic euro thread? Debating at cfc is useless as its just people repeating what they've already said. __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

10-06-2008, 02:00	#15
Markstar King Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany. Posts: 1,746	That was an impressive win by the Netherlands, they certainly looked better than any other team so far, even Germany. [] It seems this might get quite interesting.

10-06-2008, 08:56	#16
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	We can do a thread for every game, bclg Goal 2 and 3 were brillant. Especially as both were just 10 seconds after a big chance for Italy. How fast NL switched from defense to offense was really great. And therefore it doesn't really matter whether first goal was offside or not. Italy had a few good opportunities but that makes the well deserved win for NL even more impressing. It's not like they played vs a weak team. Player of the match: van Bronckhorst or Pirlo (I think he was really strong despite his team being average) Worst player: Zambrotta (he should have got 4 yellow cards for costant diving...) __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

10-06-2008, 09:16	#17
Furiey King Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bedfordshire UK. Posts: 1,031	There's a very big Italian community in my area so much of the Bedford area is not going to be happy, but that's not me. I don't really follow football, but well done Holland!

10-06-2008, 15:40	#18
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	BTW: http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/news/kin...+goal+decision Basically: The defender counts as being "in-game". Doing it deliberately gets you a yellow card, doing it unintended still counts you as being in-game for as long as the game doesn't take a break. So, UEFA officials suppport the referee. __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.