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akots · 08-05-2015, 22:18

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Originally Posted by arne1

Don't you get to compete in some worthless loser's cup?
I have also noticed that if you win the serious competition starts a lot earlier in the cup.
But if you loose you can pay a few rounds of looser cup(s).

That Apollo or whatever cup has same income as regular national friendlies and same experience. I usually lose right away so I can get more experience from international friendlies.

I tried to fight there but after I win once, I usually get to some Division II team again anyhow in the following round.

But, IMO, I have accumulated some cash and I'm in position to spend it. Not next season but maybe a season after that when my current winger training starts paying off. Should be enough to propel me to Division II with some luck. I then would probably go bankrupt and quit for good. I think I would start gradually improving the team next season to hunt for bargains and pump up loyalty. One or two utopian playmakers and magical defenders cannot be that expensive. The problem with bargains is that I don't have enough time to spend on the market. It needs too much effort.

socralynnek · 10-05-2015, 03:52

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Originally Posted by akots

That Apollo or whatever cup has same income as regular national friendlies and same experience. I usually lose right away so I can get more experience from international friendlies.

I think, experience is the same as in international friendlies, but I might be wrong (rules don't cover t exactly IMO)

About the finances:
My last match in one of the loser cups had 17K visitors, never had half of that in an international friendly.

(2nd team had 9K visitors in the loser-loser-cup, which is still more than an international friendly)

akots · 10-05-2015, 19:49

For me, the Apollo cup had 11K spectators and it was an away match. So, I got $18.4K out of it. Which is complete bs as I get progressively 40K/w from sponsors just by being in Division IV. Also, some international friendlies can give more money, depends on team. I get decent pay from playing with Shabba, for example. I'm not sure about experience, but I prefer to field training squad as this nets more income in the long run IMO. Winning a match in that stupid cup requires primary squad.

I had 4 away matches in the primary cup which I won and I lost 5th which was my only home match. I then had secondary cup as an away match. So, I'm not sure what is going on there. It seems, that the only way to get decent income from the cup is to actually demote yourself to Division V and try to finish there as number 2 or 3. I checked last time whether this brings me more money but it seems that it is not that advantageous as now, I'm making same money or slightly more than I had in Div 5. And I can still keep training what I want to train. So, basically, there is no point in the cup unless the team really is overqualified for your actual division.

Also, Germany or any other major football country has way more options. US/Canada are just blemishes on the map. 75% or Div 6 are bots and bots. We even had a bot last season in Div 4.

socralynnek · 15-05-2015, 11:14

my 2nd team is in Paraguay where I get trashed in the 3rd division but easily promoteyd in 4th, so that might be comparable.

My 2nd team is in the final of the loser-loser cup, my only chance to ever win a title.

With respect to training: You are right there. Training winger, it is a little easier to get training and play in the cup. But this week might be a problem there.

I like the challenge of the new cups, but I will not sacrifice too much for it.

akots · 15-05-2015, 23:02

Paraguay seems to be even a smaller dump than US.

socralynnek · 19-05-2015, 23:33

By the way, both my teams are available for the cdz cup.

Maybe my 2nd team wins its first national title today, even if it is only the loser-loser cup...

arne1 · 20-05-2015, 21:01

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Originally Posted by socralynnek

By the way, both my teams are available for the cdz cup.

Maybe my 2nd team wins its first national title today, even if it is only the loser-loser cup...

do we start the week of Wednessday the 3rd of June?

barbu1977 · 20-05-2015, 21:32

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Originally Posted by arne1

do we start the week of Wednessday the 3rd of June?

Sounds good to me!

socralynnek · 20-05-2015, 23:16

Sounds good to me.

akots · 21-05-2015, 18:34

OK.

10-05-2015, 19:49	#73
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	For me, the Apollo cup had 11K spectators and it was an away match. So, I got $18.4K out of it. Which is complete bs as I get progressively 40K/w from sponsors just by being in Division IV. Also, some international friendlies can give more money, depends on team. I get decent pay from playing with Shabba, for example. I'm not sure about experience, but I prefer to field training squad as this nets more income in the long run IMO. Winning a match in that stupid cup requires primary squad. I had 4 away matches in the primary cup which I won and I lost 5th which was my only home match. I then had secondary cup as an away match. So, I'm not sure what is going on there. It seems, that the only way to get decent income from the cup is to actually demote yourself to Division V and try to finish there as number 2 or 3. I checked last time whether this brings me more money but it seems that it is not that advantageous as now, I'm making same money or slightly more than I had in Div 5. And I can still keep training what I want to train. So, basically, there is no point in the cup unless the team really is overqualified for your actual division. Also, Germany or any other major football country has way more options. US/Canada are just blemishes on the map. 75% or Div 6 are bots and bots. We even had a bot last season in Div 4. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

15-05-2015, 11:14	#74
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	my 2nd team is in Paraguay where I get trashed in the 3rd division but easily promoteyd in 4th, so that might be comparable. My 2nd team is in the final of the loser-loser cup, my only chance to ever win a title. With respect to training: You are right there. Training winger, it is a little easier to get training and play in the cup. But this week might be a problem there. I like the challenge of the new cups, but I will not sacrifice too much for it. __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

15-05-2015, 23:02	#75
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	Paraguay seems to be even a smaller dump than US. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

19-05-2015, 23:33	#76
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	By the way, both my teams are available for the cdz cup. Maybe my 2nd team wins its first national title today, even if it is only the loser-loser cup... __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

20-05-2015, 23:16	#79
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	Sounds good to me. __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

21-05-2015, 18:34	#80
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	OK. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)