DrA vs Anarres *SPOILER* - Page 8

Stapel · 20-10-2003, 08:44

Hehehehe! That looks nasty!

Aggie · 20-10-2003, 08:47

Killer, you said that anarres should respond with nukes (in the open thread). Looks like he didn't have them looking at the military advisor screenshot

Lt. Killer M · 20-10-2003, 09:06

aggie, yes, I wanted to make a point about MAD - you have to make SURE that you also have a lot of nukes if your enemy builds them - or that the peace runs long enough for you to catch up.... in this case, there is no M in AD

Grille · 20-10-2003, 09:50

Wow!

"10 gpt for each nuke NOT fired" (plus anarres could possibly gain some time to build up at least some 'MAD'-nukes then) looks rather very cheap compared to this devastation.

What's with unit losses on anarres side (F3-the day after)?

Aggie · 20-10-2003, 09:52

@Grille, I agree with you. DrA took some risks there! That F3-screen I want to see too!

Grille · 20-10-2003, 10:24

DrA,
another question: you go commie (or monarchy)?
Switching from republic is probably a wise move, regarding the chances of collecting a lot of wwp now..

If ww works only half as effective as in SP games (

), anarres is really fucked w/ all that cities being razed etc (plus being non-religious)...

DrAlimentado · 20-10-2003, 13:45

I went Commie straight away - we actually had a bug at turn 273 which crashed the game until we re-declared war and instantly made peace

- and I got full WW (50 - 70%) again then and now. There is some debate about whether I should have had it or not... turn 273 was 21 turns after we had previously made peace, but there is conflicting research about how WW decreases.

IIRC anarres still had the majority of his troops intact, - 20 or so mechs, I'll grab a shot next turn in the unlikely event this game goes on. He is unable to reach my troop stacks next turn , and I kept 3 nukes back just in case he is foolish enough to try and threaten my stacks of MA. I am pretty sure he will resign now

Even though I am back to slow research he has no core at all... just 1 mega-city left (Uliastay) and I have disconnected a bunch of luxes to boot. I have also built temples in the former chinese bloc and got all the coastal tiles etc and am now just 30 tiles from a dom win!

As far as the peace offer goes, it was conditional on anarres dismantling his entire Military completely. I didn't think for a moment he would accept - but if he had then the second he built a single nuke (or any mil unit) I would have unleashed the storm! Removing my spy would have been interpreted as an act of war of course - call them US (United Spanish) weapons inspectors and you get the idea

I am confident I could have outresearched him and outproduced him to SS. -400gpt would have hampered him even further.

Cynics and Mongol-sympathisers have said that the peace ultimatum was just for PR purposes - an unrealistic offer that the Mongls could never accept. They claim that it was done to sway domestic opinion into supporting an imperialist invasion of sovereign Mongol territory. These kind of Mongol-loving scum will always complain about shit, because they are self-hating and have a pathological hatred of the Glorious Spanish empire and the Spanish way of life. We made it clear if they loved the Mongols so much they were welcome to go live there - they have been silenced.

digger760 · 20-10-2003, 14:25

good game DrA, looks like you will win...and you should win the picture count as well 71 images to 65 in Annares thread...thank god i can use broadband at work.

DrAlimentado · 20-10-2003, 15:12

Anarres has said he will fight on! He claims to have 130 MA - a lie! But we will destroy him whatever the case... Even if we went 1 for 1 I can replace troops and he can't

Pastorius · 25-02-2005, 10:08

Nice game

20-10-2003, 08:44	#71
Stapel Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,196	Hehehehe! That looks nasty! __________________ Vrooooooooooommmmmm Stapel doesn't like cricket

20-10-2003, 09:06	#73
Lt. Killer M Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: HAWK!. Posts: 4,365	aggie, yes, I wanted to make a point about MAD - you have to make SURE that you also have a lot of nukes if your enemy builds them - or that the peace runs long enough for you to catch up.... in this case, there is no M in AD __________________ One more turn..... just one more turn... one MORE!

20-10-2003, 10:24	#76
Grille Join Date: May 2003 Location: in a swamp. Posts: 901	DrA, another question: you go commie (or monarchy)? Switching from republic is probably a wise move, regarding the chances of collecting a lot of wwp now.. If ww works only half as effective as in SP games (), anarres is really fucked w/ all that cities being razed etc (plus being non-religious)...

20-10-2003, 13:45	#77
DrAlimentado Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: the cookie jar. Posts: 1,568	I went Commie straight away - we actually had a bug at turn 273 which crashed the game until we re-declared war and instantly made peace - and I got full WW (50 - 70%) again then and now. There is some debate about whether I should have had it or not... turn 273 was 21 turns after we had previously made peace, but there is conflicting research about how WW decreases. IIRC anarres still had the majority of his troops intact, - 20 or so mechs, I'll grab a shot next turn in the unlikely event this game goes on. He is unable to reach my troop stacks next turn , and I kept 3 nukes back just in case he is foolish enough to try and threaten my stacks of MA. I am pretty sure he will resign now Even though I am back to slow research he has no core at all... just 1 mega-city left (Uliastay) and I have disconnected a bunch of luxes to boot. I have also built temples in the former chinese bloc and got all the coastal tiles etc and am now just 30 tiles from a dom win! As far as the peace offer goes, it was conditional on anarres dismantling his entire Military completely. I didn't think for a moment he would accept - but if he had then the second he built a single nuke (or any mil unit) I would have unleashed the storm! Removing my spy would have been interpreted as an act of war of course - call them US (United Spanish) weapons inspectors and you get the idea I am confident I could have outresearched him and outproduced him to SS. -400gpt would have hampered him even further. Cynics and Mongol-sympathisers have said that the peace ultimatum was just for PR purposes - an unrealistic offer that the Mongls could never accept. They claim that it was done to sway domestic opinion into supporting an imperialist invasion of sovereign Mongol territory. These kind of Mongol-loving scum will always complain about shit, because they are self-hating and have a pathological hatred of the Glorious Spanish empire and the Spanish way of life. We made it clear if they loved the Mongols so much they were welcome to go live there - they have been silenced. __________________ <font color=\"red\">sign up for the best game on the forum</font id=\"red\"> <font color=\"green\">My Army</font id=\"green\"> <font color=\"green\">Help my orcs to prosper</font id=\"green\"> MapTweaker Utility beta (copy/paste/resize biq files)

20-10-2003, 15:12	#79
DrAlimentado Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: the cookie jar. Posts: 1,568	Anarres has said he will fight on! He claims to have 130 MA - a lie! But we will destroy him whatever the case... Even if we went 1 for 1 I can replace troops and he can't __________________ <font color=\"red\">sign up for the best game on the forum</font id=\"red\"> <font color=\"green\">My Army</font id=\"green\"> <font color=\"green\">Help my orcs to prosper</font id=\"green\"> MapTweaker Utility beta (copy/paste/resize biq files)

20-10-2003, 08:47	#72
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Killer, you said that anarres should respond with nukes (in the open thread). Looks like he didn't have them looking at the military advisor screenshot

20-10-2003, 09:50	#74
Grille Join Date: May 2003 Location: in a swamp. Posts: 901	Wow! "10 gpt for each nuke NOT fired" (plus anarres could possibly gain some time to build up at least some 'MAD'-nukes then) looks rather very cheap compared to this devastation. What's with unit losses on anarres side (F3-the day after)?

20-10-2003, 09:52	#75
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	@Grille, I agree with you. DrA took some risks there! That F3-screen I want to see too!

20-10-2003, 14:25	#78
digger760 King Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Fake Dog Poo Factory. Posts: 1,887	good game DrA, looks like you will win...and you should win the picture count as well 71 images to 65 in Annares thread...thank god i can use broadband at work.

25-02-2005, 10:08	#80
Pastorius Custard used tile Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Opening a can Posts: 3,158	Nice game __________________