Deathmatch IV - Discussion Thread - Page 3

akots · 25-03-2005, 19:20

All sounds good!

Dell19 · 25-03-2005, 19:24

Yep

I guess once things start getting added then its likely that the game is also going to be partly a test where we can evaluate the changes.

Beam · 25-03-2005, 19:40

Indeed, therefore it is best to keep the number of real changes limited. Here are the Civilopedia entries for the 2 new units btw (the Alfa might be associated with an different tech):

95.41KB

108.22KB

And the units in action:

39.46KB

Details of planned unit producing small wonders:

152.95KB

That's quite a lot and finding / editing a full set of graphs for each of them is a hell of a job, instead I'll make a Civilopedia entrance for each of them and some standard graphs for the Civilopedia, City screen and Splash screen.

Kingreno · 25-03-2005, 19:50

Looks great!

Beam · 25-03-2005, 20:46

The Small Wonder splash for the Alfa (when the small wonder producing the Alfa is build this pic will pop-up):

15.66KB

Making Wonder Splashes now for all units in the list, using the same background.

akots · 25-03-2005, 21:52

A touch of art is always nice. This nighthawk fortress castle looks very appealing. I'd be tempted to build it just to look at it.

I'm still thinking of increasing hit points for the units. What about conscript at 3hp, regular - 4, vet - 5, and elite -6? It is not that much but will add great spice to combat. Another thing to consider is doubling all attack and defese values and making settlers cost 100 shields or more and 4 or 5 population.

akots · 25-03-2005, 21:56

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by Dell19

... its likely that the game is also going to be partly a test where we can evaluate the changes.

There are multiple mods which already have these changes and these mods are very nice and tweak the game in a pleasant way. For example, TAM mod with extra hit points and doubled defense-attack in very playable and enjoyable. Other WWII and WWI mods also use similar features along with a few others. I've played a few and find them more realistic and appealing compared to rather routine C3C engine. These mods were fairly well tested and my opinion on the matters is not unique.

Beam · 25-03-2005, 22:55

KR and me had a good chat about this mod today and our main focus now is to get a nice and playable map, correct overpowered units and last but not least get both of our work combined.

Just increasing hitpoints and / or doubling defense / attack values for the sake of it doesn't add much value imo (sorry my friend, I'm in a very direct mood today

). Settler idea sounds ok, making it more expensive to build one. For a start I propose build cost of 60 and pop cost of 4? The latter is a lot and will make it very hard to have a "Settler factory".

KR just informed me all cities are on the map, I'll have to put the mods in after that, KR then has to relocate Uranium and Aluminium because I'll have to remove my contacts and sit 10ft from the screen in order to miss them

akots · 25-03-2005, 23:07

But we all will have the resources (somewhere) and map will be all improved and revealed? Like in DMIII?

Never mind, it was just a wish about hit points and indeed would yield a completely different game which could have been not so great idea, hard to tell.

Settlers sound fine with 60 shields and 4 pop.

Also a silly question. There wil be no space race victory I assume? Just Conquest and Domination?

Kingreno · 25-03-2005, 23:13

As the corresponding techs for U and Al are yet to be discovered, their locations should not be known to Beam.

25-03-2005, 19:20	#21
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	All sounds good! __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

25-03-2005, 19:40	#23
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Indeed, therefore it is best to keep the number of real changes limited. Here are the Civilopedia entries for the 2 new units btw (the Alfa might be associated with an different tech): 95.41KB 108.22KB And the units in action: 39.46KB Details of planned unit producing small wonders: 152.95KB That's quite a lot and finding / editing a full set of graphs for each of them is a hell of a job, instead I'll make a Civilopedia entrance for each of them and some standard graphs for the Civilopedia, City screen and Splash screen. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

25-03-2005, 19:50	#24
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	Looks great! __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

25-03-2005, 20:46	#25
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	The Small Wonder splash for the Alfa (when the small wonder producing the Alfa is build this pic will pop-up): 15.66KB Making Wonder Splashes now for all units in the list, using the same background. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

25-03-2005, 21:52	#26
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	A touch of art is always nice. This nighthawk fortress castle looks very appealing. I'd be tempted to build it just to look at it. I'm still thinking of increasing hit points for the units. What about conscript at 3hp, regular - 4, vet - 5, and elite -6? It is not that much but will add great spice to combat. Another thing to consider is doubling all attack and defese values and making settlers cost 100 shields or more and 4 or 5 population. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

25-03-2005, 19:24	#22
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	Yep I guess once things start getting added then its likely that the game is also going to be partly a test where we can evaluate the changes.

25-03-2005, 22:55	#28
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	KR and me had a good chat about this mod today and our main focus now is to get a nice and playable map, correct overpowered units and last but not least get both of our work combined. Just increasing hitpoints and / or doubling defense / attack values for the sake of it doesn't add much value imo (sorry my friend, I'm in a very direct mood today ). Settler idea sounds ok, making it more expensive to build one. For a start I propose build cost of 60 and pop cost of 4? The latter is a lot and will make it very hard to have a "Settler factory". KR just informed me all cities are on the map, I'll have to put the mods in after that, KR then has to relocate Uranium and Aluminium because I'll have to remove my contacts and sit 10ft from the screen in order to miss them __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

25-03-2005, 23:07	#29
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	But we all will have the resources (somewhere) and map will be all improved and revealed? Like in DMIII? Never mind, it was just a wish about hit points and indeed would yield a completely different game which could have been not so great idea, hard to tell. Settlers sound fine with 60 shields and 4 pop. Also a silly question. There wil be no space race victory I assume? Just Conquest and Domination? __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

25-03-2005, 23:13	#30
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	As the corresponding techs for U and Al are yet to be discovered, their locations should not be known to Beam. __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.