"The Learning Game" CDZ-SG1 - Page 12

ProPain · 15-08-2006, 14:47

will play tonight and I PM'ed Dr. A.

ProPain · 16-08-2006, 20:37

picked up and playing, some delay due to personal bad planning.

ProPain · 16-08-2006, 21:30

pre-preturn

Move my ass over to CFC, find the thread, locate the save, study the pics. Pics say: wont be easy turns with those stacks. Hopefully cathy will keep those troops close to home. Take a closer look and discover some of those stacks are ours

Phew.
next hurdle: opening the save. It turns out the load menu does not access the desktop, damn fine thinking ahead firaxis. Alt-tab to desktop, click my way to saves folder, move save and create a shortcut on desktop for future use.
Load save, wait a while and

Pre-turn
My, my this looks like a new game, whats this called again, Civ 4 you say.

Look around the menus a bit and notice:
-Cathy has had a fall in her power graph. Maybe she had a little war with a civ unknown to us as saladin isnt showing and spikes/falls in his.Wouldnt know where that other civ would be then though. Study the map a bit more, maybe south east of yaroslav: there's land going into the FoW and yaroslav is islamic instead of judish. Dont know if that means anything though. maybe it's just barbs that rattled her a bit.
-Cathy is has suffered a fall in production and atm we're outproducing her. So should we be able to hold outin the short run we might have a chance
-Money- and foodwise, Cathy is kicking our little behinds and accelerating away from us.

Cathy wont talk to us, so I press enter full of expectations.

IT
nothing. Cathy seems content just watching our troops

turn 1
The way I see it attacking in our current position is plain suicide but later we might not have any chance at all I read from previous posts.
I decide to stack and fort on the moscow hill, hopefully cathy will refrain from attacking like she did last IT. I pillage the hills just to annoy her, promote 2 axes on 25%archers as I see Cathy has some archers and longbowmen.
move axes to front. Press end of turn.

IT
nothing

turn 2
MOve some axes to front, up the research which I forgot to do the last turn. Sorry people. Try and talk to Cathy and - low and behold - she's willing to talk!
Stop playing now, cause I dont know what's best: war or peace. I'm thinking peace might be in or best interest, we can regroup, make a decent SoD and cripple Saladin or Cathy, but I cant judge the future implications very well so I'd like all you opinions on it.

PAUSED

Kemal · 16-08-2006, 22:35

Hmm, if possible, could you upload the save somewhere? (Dunno if admins can put files on the server directly...)

It would be easier to give opinions if we can see the exact situation, as you already mentioned it's very tense at the moment so getting an absolute crystal clear view of the game is critical.

Looks like you're getting a hang of the game pretty fast though. On Cathy, I think the power loss is because of grs's butchering a few turns ago, and the prod loss could perhaps be a result of a shift in civics, or in Cathy's build queues... as some civics give a lot of extra production depending on what you're building.

ProPain · 16-08-2006, 23:54

Ah yes, upload power me has that. Also thought up a short term solution on this problem. we can use another forum on this server that does allow upload or I can temp install a VB version as well. Will get back on that.

Will try and upload tonight but it takes some comp swapping, dunno if I'll manage that quickly, bedtime you see.

grahamiam · 17-08-2006, 14:19

I'm going to need a skip. I'm going away this weekend and won't have time tonight

ProPain · 17-08-2006, 15:19

Well, spent the better part of the day getting FTP fro CDZ fixed. Hope we wont suffer from the usual glitches that occur after password changes.

the save:

Download Attachment: [img]/forum/icon_paperclip.gif[/img] /ProPain/CDZ_AD-0500-peaceoffer.zip

This is not a save to take over the turn, just to check the situation and judge on the peace offer

Kemal · 17-08-2006, 15:22

I get a document not found error I'm afraid..

Shabbaman · 17-08-2006, 15:30

PP, I think you have to remove the space from the name of the savegame.

ProPain · 17-08-2006, 20:21

removed the space.

15-08-2006, 14:47	#111
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	will play tonight and I PM'ed Dr. A. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

16-08-2006, 20:37	#112
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	picked up and playing, some delay due to personal bad planning. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

16-08-2006, 21:30	#113
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	pre-preturn Move my ass over to CFC, find the thread, locate the save, study the pics. Pics say: wont be easy turns with those stacks. Hopefully cathy will keep those troops close to home. Take a closer look and discover some of those stacks are ours Phew. next hurdle: opening the save. It turns out the load menu does not access the desktop, damn fine thinking ahead firaxis. Alt-tab to desktop, click my way to saves folder, move save and create a shortcut on desktop for future use. Load save, wait a while and Pre-turn My, my this looks like a new game, whats this called again, Civ 4 you say. Look around the menus a bit and notice: -Cathy has had a fall in her power graph. Maybe she had a little war with a civ unknown to us as saladin isnt showing and spikes/falls in his.Wouldnt know where that other civ would be then though. Study the map a bit more, maybe south east of yaroslav: there's land going into the FoW and yaroslav is islamic instead of judish. Dont know if that means anything though. maybe it's just barbs that rattled her a bit. -Cathy is has suffered a fall in production and atm we're outproducing her. So should we be able to hold outin the short run we might have a chance -Money- and foodwise, Cathy is kicking our little behinds and accelerating away from us. Cathy wont talk to us, so I press enter full of expectations. IT nothing. Cathy seems content just watching our troops turn 1 The way I see it attacking in our current position is plain suicide but later we might not have any chance at all I read from previous posts. I decide to stack and fort on the moscow hill, hopefully cathy will refrain from attacking like she did last IT. I pillage the hills just to annoy her, promote 2 axes on 25%archers as I see Cathy has some archers and longbowmen. move axes to front. Press end of turn. IT nothing turn 2 MOve some axes to front, up the research which I forgot to do the last turn. Sorry people. Try and talk to Cathy and - low and behold - she's willing to talk! Stop playing now, cause I dont know what's best: war or peace. I'm thinking peace might be in or best interest, we can regroup, make a decent SoD and cripple Saladin or Cathy, but I cant judge the future implications very well so I'd like all you opinions on it. PAUSED __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

16-08-2006, 22:35	#114
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	Hmm, if possible, could you upload the save somewhere? (Dunno if admins can put files on the server directly...) It would be easier to give opinions if we can see the exact situation, as you already mentioned it's very tense at the moment so getting an absolute crystal clear view of the game is critical. Looks like you're getting a hang of the game pretty fast though. On Cathy, I think the power loss is because of grs's butchering a few turns ago, and the prod loss could perhaps be a result of a shift in civics, or in Cathy's build queues... as some civics give a lot of extra production depending on what you're building. __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

16-08-2006, 23:54	#115
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Ah yes, upload power me has that. Also thought up a short term solution on this problem. we can use another forum on this server that does allow upload or I can temp install a VB version as well. Will get back on that. Will try and upload tonight but it takes some comp swapping, dunno if I'll manage that quickly, bedtime you see. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

17-08-2006, 14:19	#116
grahamiam Emperor Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA, East Coast. Posts: 2,673	I'm going to need a skip. I'm going away this weekend and won't have time tonight

17-08-2006, 15:19	#117
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Well, spent the better part of the day getting FTP fro CDZ fixed. Hope we wont suffer from the usual glitches that occur after password changes. the save: Download Attachment: [img]/forum/icon_paperclip.gif[/img] /ProPain/CDZ_AD-0500-peaceoffer.zip This is not a save to take over the turn, just to check the situation and judge on the peace offer __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

17-08-2006, 15:22	#118
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	I get a document not found error I'm afraid.. __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

17-08-2006, 15:30	#119
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,493	PP, I think you have to remove the space from the name of the savegame. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

17-08-2006, 20:21	#120
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	removed the space. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah