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Old 28-11-2011, 16:31   #41
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Rumors say it is complicated and needs ridiculous amount of time to figure out. That is why I stick to keepers. This is less complicated because they need only main skill and set pieces.
Keepers do use their defending skill as well.

The question for training (if you don't train for your own team) is: Which skill is important in terms of money.

E.g. I think that defending is less worth than passing for IM although one can discuss which one is more important rating wise...
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Old 28-11-2011, 17:40   #42
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Just returned from holiday 2 days ago and my team is in great shape. Although my team is getting ready for the retirement home and skill drops are a lot more frequent than skill-raises, they managed to win 7 out of 8 matches and I am still undefeated. This while piccing and playing B-team in the league. So If I get kicked out of the cup early I should be able to win the league. Since with all my oldies I am close to an average of divine team-loyalty.
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Old 28-11-2011, 18:36   #43
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It is my understanding that 2.2 levels of defending=1 level of keeper so yeah defending on your keepers is a very good thing especially as your keeper adds to your defending ratings:


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the Goalkeeper contributes with:
- 86.6% of his GK skill to the Central Defence rating
- 42.5% of his Defending skill to the Central Defence rating
- 59.7% of his GK skill to the Side Defence ratings
- 27.6% of his Defending skill to the Side Defence ratings.
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Old 29-11-2011, 17:49   #44
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defending is indeed important for keepers so training that will quickly improve the keeper. Especially at the lowest levels!!

to make my question a bit more simple: I like to know the following for soon to be taken decisions: does anyone know the effect of passing on a playmaker?
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Old 29-11-2011, 18:55   #45
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Is this the info you looking for?:

► The Inner Midfielder Normal (IMN) uses:
- 100% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 40% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 18.9% of his Defending for Side Defence
- 32.5% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 21.8% of his Passing for Side Attack


► The Inner midfielder defensive (IMD) uses:
- 94.4% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 59.4% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 27% of his Defending for Side Defence
- 21.9% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 14% of his Passing for Side Attack

►The Inner Midfielder Offensive (IMO) uses:
- 94.4% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 21.6% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 10.2% of his Defending for Side Defence
- 48.3% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 21.6% of his Passing for Side Attack


► The Inner Midfielder Towards Wing (IMTW ) uses:
- 88.1% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 49.4% of his Winger for Side Attack
- 27.1% of his Passing for Side Attack
- 22.7% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 34.8% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 29.1% of his Defending for Side Defence.
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Old 30-11-2011, 09:01   #46
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Is this the info you looking for?:

► The Inner Midfielder Normal (IMN) uses:
- 100% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 40% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 18.9% of his Defending for Side Defence
- 32.5% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 21.8% of his Passing for Side Attack


► The Inner midfielder defensive (IMD) uses:
- 94.4% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 59.4% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 27% of his Defending for Side Defence
- 21.9% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 14% of his Passing for Side Attack

►The Inner Midfielder Offensive (IMO) uses:
- 94.4% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 21.6% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 10.2% of his Defending for Side Defence
- 48.3% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 21.6% of his Passing for Side Attack


► The Inner Midfielder Towards Wing (IMTW ) uses:
- 88.1% of his Playmaking for Midfield
- 49.4% of his Winger for Side Attack
- 27.1% of his Passing for Side Attack
- 22.7% of his Passing for Central Attack
- 34.8% of his Defending for Central Defence
- 29.1% of his Defending for Side Defence.
I think this is it indeed. Thanks for that!

edit: do you have the same for the other positions as well? I can't access the forum you pointed to...

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Old 30-11-2011, 09:58   #47
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The question for training (if you don't train for your own team) is: Which skill is important in terms of money.
I wonder if this really is the important question. If you train a player for something like two seasons, how likely is it that either or both of the following has happened:
-the rules have changed
-the economy has collapsed

I CBA to do anything with training secondary skills, I'll just earn money by popping young wing trainees three times and sell them for 1M profit. It might not be the fastest or the most profitable way to earn money, but it's pretty stable. And even if it's slow, you'll get where you want to be only it'll take you longer. By the time you're ready to spend all that money, how likely is it that either or both of the following has happened:
-the rules have changed
-the economy has collapsed

Or worse, after you've spend all your money, how likely is it that either or both of the following has happened:
-the rules have changed
-the economy has collapsed

As in my case, when I bought a magnificent PM for 3.8M that was a good price at the time. Guess if either or both of the following has happened just afterward:
-the rules have changed
-the economy has collapsed
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Old 30-11-2011, 10:09   #48
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Shabba is right of course regarding rule-change and economy-collapse, but considering the fact that HT:

- wants to promote multi-skills
- encourages long-term club-loyalty
- gives multi-skilled players a wage-advantage

I will start training multi-skilled players.
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Old 01-12-2011, 01:48   #49
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Yeah, I'm moving in to training secondary skills when I switch to IM training in 4 weeks. This will allow me to essentially train two areas of my team whilst I make the transition and to my mind make it less expensive.

The primary benefit in my mind is the effect that it will have on wage. My wage bill is astronomical in comparison to my actual income and i barely make enough to get by.
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Old 01-12-2011, 06:31   #50
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It is my understanding that 2.2 levels of defending=1 level of keeper so yeah defending on your keepers is a very good thing especially as your keeper adds to your defending ratings:
That is fair notion with your own keeper. IMO, it has little impact on the transfer price. Also, they mostly start with disastrous defending and to have an impact, you need to train to at least around passable which would take time.
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