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Stapel · 30-01-2010, 08:34

I've also met Robi up north. It seems like all peninsulas have sea corridors somewhere, so my galley got there.

We are agreed then! The no settlement clause seems rather obvious.

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Originally Posted by Robi D

You would eventually face the same problem in the other direction although by that time i should have a galley headed your way so it wouldn't be an issue, its your choice what you wish to do. I happy with peace with 10 turns notification, i'd also like to add a no settlement clause in each others areas for the duration of the peace treaty

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Originally Posted by Stapel

Sounds fair enough. However, I am fine with travelling the other way around. Of course, I might face the same problem there ( I do not know).

There are only 6 sea tiles between the borders of your city (the one I discovered) and my border. Simply head south!

What about a peacy treaty: Eternal peace, with a 10 turn cancellation notification.

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Originally Posted by Robi D

Hello traveller,

Have you come to kill me again

Hopefully we can have more peaceful relations this time around. Your open borders request has left me with a bit of a problem, while i do not wish to impede the progress on your exploration having OB leaves me at a large disadvantage due to you having trade routes to me but i can't have trade routes to you until i expolre your way. I will have a galley headed in your direction once its completed in the next few turns.

Once i have a trade route with you i'm am happy to sign an OB but in the meantime may i suggest an agreement to let your galley past. If you agree i am willing to accept you doing a DoW, once your galley has past through my waters peacefully we can sign a peace treaty. By the time your galley would be heading back my way we would have a OB in place.

If you are happy with this arrangement let me know and your galley can proceed

Regards
Robi

Stapel · 07-02-2010, 15:36

Twelve turns before hell breaks loose.

Stapel · 07-02-2010, 15:36

Interesting:

Darkness · 20-02-2010, 15:52

Well, the great emperor of the Ruckhoven Empire has gone skying, so he has instructed his loyal general to declare war on Plattfuss in his absence.

Some pictures to tell the tale of this turn...

The Ruckhoven offensive forces:

Plattfuss primary defensive force:

The Powergraph:

The Rockhoven demographics:

BCLG100 · 20-02-2010, 15:59

Is he still at war with DanDridge? I'm guessing that must have been a phoney war as Dan's power graph doesn't look to have altered at all!

Darkness · 21-02-2010, 15:15

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Originally Posted by BCLG100

Is he still at war with DanDridge? I'm guessing that must have been a phoney war as Dan's power graph doesn't look to have altered at all!

According to F4 there are no wars besides Stapel vs Plattfuss.
I'm guessing DanDridge vs Plattfuss was either phoney war or one of them wanted a galley to pass through the lands of the other and they couldn't negotiate open borders.

Unfortunately it looks like this war will not end well for the Ruckhoven Empire. There are almost 80 units in or near Lyon this turn (24 swordsmen, 29 axemen, 24 catapults, 1 spearman and 3 chariots). Either Plattfuss has a monster economy and really outbuilt Stapel with regards to units or Stapel got played by Plattfuss and IandDC.

Darkness · 22-02-2010, 19:58

Well, after the battle at the gates of Lyons the Ruckhoven forces have decided to make a tactical retreat. Basically our forces have been decimated. I did get a great general. Plattfuss got 3...

I did trade with Beam (fish for pigs) and DanDridge (open borders and worldmap for both)...

Darkness · 23-02-2010, 10:37

I got a PM from Plattfuss:

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Hi Stapel,

sorry, for killing your stack but you left me no choice. Since you destroyed my game I think it would be fair to put me into the position I would have had without your attack. I had to invest around 2600 shields into units and another 1600 gold for upgrades. I am waiting for your response on if and how you want to do that. My idea would be to compensate the shields by cities and the gold by the same amount in gold. I would also like to revive the idea of a 3-way alliance.

Best,
Platt

PS: Darkness, I put you in cc since I do not know when Stapel will return. I will also send you a proposal I made to Stapel regarding a three way alliance with Ian and me in case you will sub him for some time and are able to make strategic decisions.

He wants Stapel to pay for his units? And give up cities in return for peace? Because Stapel destroyed his game? What?

Who cares the army is destroyed? Stapel gambled to get an advantage. Plattfuss played his defense very well, so Stapel (and me

) lost. So basically this game is already lost for the Ruckhoven empire. And now Plattfuss wants to have Stapel pay for this in gold and cities? That would essentially make Stapel Plattfuss' bitch, and basically make Stapel an afterthought in this game. He would never recover from that payment (which comes in addition to the investment Stapel made to attack Plattfuss). I would rather go down in flames and fight Plattfuss every step of the way. Peace would be preferable, but only straight up. I am not going to pay any kind of damages for simply playing the game as I like to play it. And I know Stapel well enough to say that he would never agree to this either.

I guess it is time to tell Plattfuss to stuff it. If he wants compensation he'll have to take it from the cold, dead hands of the Ruckhoven empire....

Darkness · 23-02-2010, 10:43

My response:

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Hi Plattfuss,

I will say this immediately: There will be no kind of payment or compensation for your expenses to fend of the attack. War is a part of the game, and I will make no excuses for trying to turn that part of the game into an advantage for the Ruckhoven empire. Your defense was very, very impressive but if you want peace, the only deal I will accept is peace straight up. If you want anything else, you'll have to take it by force. I realize that you certainly have the forces to attempt this, but that will cost you an even bigger investment than the one you have already done. If you're willing to do that then I will fight you every step of the way.

Best regards,
Darkness

BCLG100 · 23-02-2010, 12:44

Why don't you suggest for peace that the three of you go after dandridge and he takes the better cities and Ian and stapel fight it out for the rest? he gets something and you dont lose anything.

20-02-2010, 15:52	#44
Darkness Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,905	Well, the great emperor of the Ruckhoven Empire has gone skying, so he has instructed his loyal general to declare war on Plattfuss in his absence. Some pictures to tell the tale of this turn... The Ruckhoven offensive forces: Plattfuss primary defensive force: The Powergraph: The Rockhoven demographics: __________________ "Death is lighter than a feather, but duty is heavier than a mountain..." - The Eye of the World

20-02-2010, 15:59	#45
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 5,009	Is he still at war with DanDridge? I'm guessing that must have been a phoney war as Dan's power graph doesn't look to have altered at all! __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

22-02-2010, 19:58	#47
Darkness Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,905	Well, after the battle at the gates of Lyons the Ruckhoven forces have decided to make a tactical retreat. Basically our forces have been decimated. I did get a great general. Plattfuss got 3... I did trade with Beam (fish for pigs) and DanDridge (open borders and worldmap for both)... __________________ "Death is lighter than a feather, but duty is heavier than a mountain..." - The Eye of the World

23-02-2010, 12:44	#50
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 5,009	Why don't you suggest for peace that the three of you go after dandridge and he takes the better cities and Ian and stapel fight it out for the rest? he gets something and you dont lose anything. __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

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