Killer vs anarres SPOILER - Page 2

anarres · 08-04-2003, 23:46

86 - Finally finish Map Making, switch to Horseback Riding (7 turns @100%). Switch 2 cities to galley.

87 - Produce my first galley from Trondheim.

89 - I have contact with Rome! Rome are stocked with techs and money like England.

From the English I buy contact with the Mongols for 69 gold.

Sell the Mongols Map Making for Horseback Riding, Bronze Working, World Map and 46 gold. They are dry now.

From the English (again) I buy contact with the Americans for WM and 125 gold.

Sell WM and Contact with Mongols to America, get WM and 29 gold.

Do more WM trading and make another 40 gold or so.

I borrow 149 gold from Rome for 10 gpt.

I borrow 252 gold from the English for 16 gpt. (To get up to 16 gpt I turn all my citizens to the higest gold weildig tiles, mostly coastal tiles).

Upgrade 17 Chariots to Horsemen. War next turn!

I forget the minimap, I will post it next turn.

anarres · 12-04-2003, 02:22

90 - Declare war on the English. Take Hastings, get 2 settlers near my border.

AI - I can't see the AI, but I lost a horseman on swamp and a warrior fortified on a mountain. There is an archer with 1hp on each.

91 - Kill both injured archers and back both horsemen up with archers. Upgrade another chariot. I can pick them off now for a while, then when I have more horsemen I can get Warwick, the bastard city that stole my wheat.

AI - 2 of my units have been attacked and have retreated.

Dunno if any English archers died...

92 - Resistance in Hasting ends. Kill 2 damaged archers.

AI - From the missing units I think England lost 2 archers and killed a horseman. I appear to be at war with the Americans! [

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93 - Killed a lone archer.

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anarres · 13-04-2003, 23:06

96 - Take Hastings and Warwick. I am only paying a few gpt for units now, this is very good as I can now get money to upgrade my chariots.

97 - Sell Spices and 40 gold to the Romans for Contact with the Arabs and Ivory. Give WM to Arabia for WM and 3 gold. Weird thing is I don't have harbours, so this must be going through England!

99 - Raze York, get 3 workers. It was 1 tile from the coast, very badly placed. Take Newcastle, a tiny fishing village to the SE of the island.

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anarres · 16-04-2003, 19:58

101 - Make peace with the English, get Code of Laws for WM, 37 gold and 1 gpt.

Get Masonry, Mysticism and 2 gold for Code of Laws from Arabia.

105 - Give Spices, 4 gpt and 14 gold to Arabia for Furs.

106 - Give WM to Egypt for TM and 24 gold.

anarres · 26-04-2003, 18:02

107 - Found Aarhus, not quite where I wanted it, but still directly on a horse, denying England one of their 2 sources.

Buy Phil from Egypt for 93 gold. Set science to Republic 90% (21 turns).

108 - Roman Leginons arrive on my shore (well, 2 anyway). I kill one and fortify my city.

I am now at war with Arabia, and for some weird reason I got extra unhappiness?

109 - 2 more LEgions arive.

119 stil killing romans, but spear/archer now

121 - ARGH! I get a peace 'renewal' deal from england - I can only accept for 20 turns or declare war, so I declare. One of my captured cities riots.

I take Canturbury and get a leader.

Take Oxford and Leeds, one in the north and another in the south.

123 - Capture Coventry and the Great Lighthouse.

127 - Compete the Forbidden Palalce in the middle of my continent. Attacking London I get another Leader, nearly all my horsemen are elite now.

Damn, I fail to take London this turn though.

128 - I take London

129 - Capture Nottingham, there are only 2 English cities left on the island, way to the south in the jungle.

England surrenders for Iron Working, Maths, Polytheism, 4 gpt and REading (in the middle of nowhere).

130 - Research Republic, switch immediately - 6 more turns!!

Sell England Republic for Literature, Construction, WM, 10 gold and 2 gpt.

Make Peace with America, straight terms.

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anarres · 19-05-2003, 23:40

136 - Become a Republic, that anarchy was waay too long.

Make straight peace with Arabia.

Give Construction to America for Furs

137 - Make a straight lux swap with Killer.

148 - Been buildign up my cities, waiting for the treaty with England to end so I can take the last 2 cities.

Make peace with the Romans, paying 360 gold for Currency.

149 - My peace with the English runs out. Since I have 10 Elite Horsemen I make my spare leader in to army. On my 5th elite victory I get another leader.

150 - Buy Feudalismm for 345 gold from Killer (half the price from Rome)

157 - Give Spices, Silks and 8 gpt to America for Furs.

anarres · 14-06-2003, 02:02

163? - Make peace with the English.

166 - Buy Engineering from the Americans for WM and 911 gold

Buy Mono from Arabia for Engineering and 48 gold. Set research to Invention (8 turns)

171 - Lux deal with Killer has run out.

175 - Research Invention. Sell to America for 139 gold, sell to Arabia for Theology.

Give America Invention, 105 gold and 20 gpt for Theology.

I get Education form the Romans with Peace for 119 gpt. It is real expensive, but I have to stop the effect of Killer's Great Library.

Sell Education to the Americans for 134 gold and 15 gpt.

176 - Now Killer has Education I can do my evil trading act...

Buy Astonomy form the Romans for Spices, Silks, 149 gpt and 145 gold. I had to turn tax to 100% and set all the entertainers to tiles, and move to the high commercial tiles to get the gpt up to do it.

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The Arabs try to get Silks from me, I deny them.

183 - The Romans land a Kinght and a Med. Inf, and I trigger my GA.

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184 - Another 3 Med. Inf. land, I lose a Beserker taking them, that's 2 lost already.

Rome makes peace, and for 350 gpt in the deal he gives:

Navigation, Gunpowder, Banking, Chivalry.

I investigate Cumae where Mallegan's voyage is being buit, it has 7 turns left. Next I declare war on Rome.

Wow, Killer not only hasn't got Astronomy yet, he hasn't got Gunpowder or Banking either!

Maybe he is going for Democracy??

I am gonna hold off rushing Mallegan's for a few more turns, I don't want to let Killer know I am about to attack yet as I need to upgrade to Knights and Beserkers first.

185 - Rush Mallegan's Voyage in Liverpool, on the opposite side to Killer.

anarres · 14-06-2003, 11:28

I have a cunning plan. I am sending 4 Beserks to take Neapolis, home of Leonardo's workshop. I will take it and upgrade all my units in one turn, then abandon it.

I hope to save about 1800 gold.

anarres · 14-06-2003, 18:12

193 - I take Neapolis with my Beserkers and get Leonardo's!

Upgrade 28 Archers to Beserks (1400), 12 Pikes to Muskets (360), 11 Horsemen to Knights (440), 11 Spear to Muskets (440).

Now I abandon Neapolis. Mwahaha

194 - I send off most of my Caravels with about 45 Beserks, 25 Knights and a couple of settlers and armies (without troops in).

I have spread my troops out so that I can hit his cities along the whole east coast. I will launch 2 seperate Knight attacks, with supporting muskets and an army each. I have yet to decide if I should have musket armies to keep my Knights alive, or Knight armies to give better attack.

195 - Make peace with Rome for 7 gpt as they land troops near an undefended northern city. Send off some straggling units to Killers land.

Somehow Killer *still* hasn't got Gunpowder! This is good news, Pikes is the worst my Bezerkers will have to face.

Aggie · 14-06-2003, 19:18

Fantastic!!!

I followed the conversation at MSM but Killer didn't suspect a thing it seemed

08-04-2003, 23:46	#11
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	86 - Finally finish Map Making, switch to Horseback Riding (7 turns @100%). Switch 2 cities to galley. 87 - Produce my first galley from Trondheim. 89 - I have contact with Rome! Rome are stocked with techs and money like England. From the English I buy contact with the Mongols for 69 gold. Sell the Mongols Map Making for Horseback Riding, Bronze Working, World Map and 46 gold. They are dry now. From the English (again) I buy contact with the Americans for WM and 125 gold. Sell WM and Contact with Mongols to America, get WM and 29 gold. Do more WM trading and make another 40 gold or so. I borrow 149 gold from Rome for 10 gpt. I borrow 252 gold from the English for 16 gpt. (To get up to 16 gpt I turn all my citizens to the higest gold weildig tiles, mostly coastal tiles). Upgrade 17 Chariots to Horsemen. War next turn! I forget the minimap, I will post it next turn. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

12-04-2003, 02:22	#12
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	90 - Declare war on the English. Take Hastings, get 2 settlers near my border. AI - I can't see the AI, but I lost a horseman on swamp and a warrior fortified on a mountain. There is an archer with 1hp on each. 91 - Kill both injured archers and back both horsemen up with archers. Upgrade another chariot. I can pick them off now for a while, then when I have more horsemen I can get Warwick, the bastard city that stole my wheat. AI - 2 of my units have been attacked and have retreated. Dunno if any English archers died... 92 - Resistance in Hasting ends. Kill 2 damaged archers. AI - From the missing units I think England lost 2 archers and killed a horseman. I appear to be at war with the Americans! [] 93 - Killed a lone archer. 5.67KB 75.11KB __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

13-04-2003, 23:06	#13
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	96 - Take Hastings and Warwick. I am only paying a few gpt for units now, this is very good as I can now get money to upgrade my chariots. 97 - Sell Spices and 40 gold to the Romans for Contact with the Arabs and Ivory. Give WM to Arabia for WM and 3 gold. Weird thing is I don't have harbours, so this must be going through England! 99 - Raze York, get 3 workers. It was 1 tile from the coast, very badly placed. Take Newcastle, a tiny fishing village to the SE of the island. We finish at turn 101: 6.08KB 78.29KB __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

16-04-2003, 19:58	#14
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	101 - Make peace with the English, get Code of Laws for WM, 37 gold and 1 gpt. Get Masonry, Mysticism and 2 gold for Code of Laws from Arabia. 105 - Give Spices, 4 gpt and 14 gold to Arabia for Furs. 106 - Give WM to Egypt for TM and 24 gold. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

26-04-2003, 18:02	#15
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	107 - Found Aarhus, not quite where I wanted it, but still directly on a horse, denying England one of their 2 sources. Buy Phil from Egypt for 93 gold. Set science to Republic 90% (21 turns). 108 - Roman Leginons arrive on my shore (well, 2 anyway). I kill one and fortify my city. I am now at war with Arabia, and for some weird reason I got extra unhappiness? 109 - 2 more LEgions arive. 119 stil killing romans, but spear/archer now 121 - ARGH! I get a peace 'renewal' deal from england - I can only accept for 20 turns or declare war, so I declare. One of my captured cities riots. I take Canturbury and get a leader. Take Oxford and Leeds, one in the north and another in the south. 123 - Capture Coventry and the Great Lighthouse. 127 - Compete the Forbidden Palalce in the middle of my continent. Attacking London I get another Leader, nearly all my horsemen are elite now. Damn, I fail to take London this turn though. 128 - I take London 129 - Capture Nottingham, there are only 2 English cities left on the island, way to the south in the jungle. England surrenders for Iron Working, Maths, Polytheism, 4 gpt and REading (in the middle of nowhere). 130 - Research Republic, switch immediately - 6 more turns!! Sell England Republic for Literature, Construction, WM, 10 gold and 2 gpt. Make Peace with America, straight terms. 7.22KB 82.81*KB __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

19-05-2003, 23:40	#16
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	136 - Become a Republic, that anarchy was waay too long. Make straight peace with Arabia. Give Construction to America for Furs 137 - Make a straight lux swap with Killer. 148 - Been buildign up my cities, waiting for the treaty with England to end so I can take the last 2 cities. Make peace with the Romans, paying 360 gold for Currency. 149 - My peace with the English runs out. Since I have 10 Elite Horsemen I make my spare leader in to army. On my 5th elite victory I get another leader. 150 - Buy Feudalismm for 345 gold from Killer (half the price from Rome) 157 - Give Spices, Silks and 8 gpt to America for Furs. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

14-06-2003, 02:02	#17
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	163? - Make peace with the English. 166 - Buy Engineering from the Americans for WM and 911 gold Buy Mono from Arabia for Engineering and 48 gold. Set research to Invention (8 turns) 171 - Lux deal with Killer has run out. 175 - Research Invention. Sell to America for 139 gold, sell to Arabia for Theology. Give America Invention, 105 gold and 20 gpt for Theology. I get Education form the Romans with Peace for 119 gpt. It is real expensive, but I have to stop the effect of Killer's Great Library. Sell Education to the Americans for 134 gold and 15 gpt. 176 - Now Killer has Education I can do my evil trading act... Buy Astonomy form the Romans for Spices, Silks, 149 gpt and 145 gold. I had to turn tax to 100% and set all the entertainers to tiles, and move to the high commercial tiles to get the gpt up to do it. 177 - The Arabs try to get Silks from me, I deny them. 183 - The Romans land a Kinght and a Med. Inf, and I trigger my GA. 74.5KB 184 - Another 3 Med. Inf. land, I lose a Beserker taking them, that's 2 lost already. Rome makes peace, and for 350 gpt in the deal he gives: Navigation, Gunpowder, Banking, Chivalry. I investigate Cumae where Mallegan's voyage is being buit, it has 7 turns left. Next I declare war on Rome. Wow, Killer not only hasn't got Astronomy yet, he hasn't got Gunpowder or Banking either! Maybe he is going for Democracy?? I am gonna hold off rushing Mallegan's for a few more turns, I don't want to let Killer know I am about to attack yet as I need to upgrade to Knights and Beserkers first. 185 - Rush Mallegan's Voyage in Liverpool, on the opposite side to Killer. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

14-06-2003, 11:28	#18
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	I have a cunning plan. I am sending 4 Beserks to take Neapolis, home of Leonardo's workshop. I will take it and upgrade all my units in one turn, then abandon it. I hope to save about 1800 gold. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

14-06-2003, 18:12	#19
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	193 - I take Neapolis with my Beserkers and get Leonardo's! Upgrade 28 Archers to Beserks (1400), 12 Pikes to Muskets (360), 11 Horsemen to Knights (440), 11 Spear to Muskets (440). Now I abandon Neapolis. Mwahaha 194 - I send off most of my Caravels with about 45 Beserks, 25 Knights and a couple of settlers and armies (without troops in). I have spread my troops out so that I can hit his cities along the whole east coast. I will launch 2 seperate Knight attacks, with supporting muskets and an army each. I have yet to decide if I should have musket armies to keep my Knights alive, or Knight armies to give better attack. 195 - Make peace with Rome for 7 gpt as they land troops near an undefended northern city. Send off some straggling units to Killers land. Somehow Killer still hasn't got Gunpowder! This is good news, Pikes is the worst my Bezerkers will have to face. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

14-06-2003, 19:18	#20
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Fantastic!!! I followed the conversation at MSM but Killer didn't suspect a thing it seemed