SpOiLeR for War of Misfit Civs- Team Cow Tippers

Tubby Rower · 23-04-2006, 22:10

This is for a 4x4 c3c PBEM vs Barbu, Killercane, Wosret, & Classical Hero.

If your name is listed above, don't stay here.

On this team there is Whomp, Beorn , Rik, and Tubby

more details to come

Whomp · 23-04-2006, 23:26

OK let's rank the worst civs first.
Anything expansionist is worthless.
The Hittites seem to be the top of that class. Expansionist and commercial.
Zulus militaristic and expansionist
Americans industrious and expansionist
Portugese as expansionist and seafaring

Koreans as commercial and scientific
Carthagians with industrious and seafaring
Mayans agricultural and industrious
Indians religious and commercial
Egyptians religious and industrious

BCLG100 · 23-04-2006, 23:31

how the hell are you 2 gonna be on the same team!!!!!!!!

what if one of you press the button!

i think americans are above zulus as the americans have such a late and worthless Uu.

I dont think you should give them conquistadors, so that counts portugal out. What about English?

Whomp · 24-04-2006, 00:55

English are not bad with the combo of traits IMO and their UU would come into play in this type of game. The Spaniards get conquistadors not Ports. Ports get carracks which is a horrid UU IMO.

BCLG100 · 24-04-2006, 01:10

oooo yer my apologies but i do think in a game like this that having cheaper easy to use barracks and an early Uu for the zulu's is maybe not such a good idea and could swap them with england.

Isnt the Man O war englands Uu or am i missing something? i think its not very likely to come into play tbh

Tubby Rower · 24-04-2006, 02:29

Out of the list you gave Whomp... I really wouldn't mind being the Koreans, Carthagians, or Indians. So I would suggest scratching those from the list.

The Koreans are scientific (great trait)
Carthage has a great pillaging UU (early galley crossings will make them useful)
Indians have an awesome UU that needs no resources.

Otherwise I like the list.

Simon, ManOWar is the English UU but you can get privateers from killing barb galleys. The carrrack is a Frigate but sucks.

Whomp · 24-04-2006, 02:53

I don't think the carrack is even a frigate it's a souped up galleon with 2-2 A/D.

Remember all traits need to be represented so we will have a scientific with some civ so the Koreans are less attractive. The chances of no iron is pretty remote as well so I think the Indians are somewhat negated even though the extra HP helps. Agricultural/seafaring/scientific/industrial/religous/commercial/expansionist/militaristic

Tubby Rower · 24-04-2006, 03:01

gotcha... I didn't think about not duplicating the traits.

Here are my choices

Koreans as com and sci
Portugese as exp and sea
Egyptians rel and ind

is there an agr and Mil civ? I didn't pick the Mayans mainly because they could irrigate like crazy and grow through the roof

Whomp · 24-04-2006, 05:05

Upon further thinking here are a few civs I was thinking in combo. Either giving them defensive or late UU's combos. This is like a puzzle and nothing exactly works out but here's a try...
America exp/ind
Germany sci/mil
English sea/comm
and the Celts as rel/ag
or
Ports exp/sea
Korean comm/sci
Egypt rel/ind
Aztec mil/ag

Tough to make combos...

Beorn · 24-04-2006, 07:04

I think what we need to decide on is what we prioritize: do we make a few overly bad or do we make them evenly bad. And do we emphasize on UU; if so, on bad, defensive or late.

I'm for giving them bad/late UU's as a medium priority, and make them evenly bad.

Will try and draw something up.

23-04-2006, 22:10	#1
Tubby Rower Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle of VA. Posts: 3,896	SpOiLeR for War of Misfit Civs- Team Cow Tippers This is for a 4x4 c3c PBEM vs Barbu, Killercane, Wosret, & Classical Hero. If your name is listed above, don't stay here. On this team there is Whomp, Beorn , Rik, and Tubby more details to come __________________ 3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?

23-04-2006, 23:26	#2
Whomp King Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago. Posts: 2,388	OK let's rank the worst civs first. Anything expansionist is worthless. The Hittites seem to be the top of that class. Expansionist and commercial. Zulus militaristic and expansionist Americans industrious and expansionist Portugese as expansionist and seafaring Koreans as commercial and scientific Carthagians with industrious and seafaring Mayans agricultural and industrious Indians religious and commercial Egyptians religious and industrious __________________ If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.--W. C. Fields

23-04-2006, 23:31	#3
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	how the hell are you 2 gonna be on the same team!!!!!!!! what if one of you press the button! i think americans are above zulus as the americans have such a late and worthless Uu. I dont think you should give them conquistadors, so that counts portugal out. What about English? __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

24-04-2006, 00:55	#4
Whomp King Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago. Posts: 2,388	English are not bad with the combo of traits IMO and their UU would come into play in this type of game. The Spaniards get conquistadors not Ports. Ports get carracks which is a horrid UU IMO. __________________ If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.--W. C. Fields

24-04-2006, 01:10	#5
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	oooo yer my apologies but i do think in a game like this that having cheaper easy to use barracks and an early Uu for the zulu's is maybe not such a good idea and could swap them with england. Isnt the Man O war englands Uu or am i missing something? i think its not very likely to come into play tbh __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

24-04-2006, 02:29	#6
Tubby Rower Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle of VA. Posts: 3,896	Out of the list you gave Whomp... I really wouldn't mind being the Koreans, Carthagians, or Indians. So I would suggest scratching those from the list. The Koreans are scientific (great trait) Carthage has a great pillaging UU (early galley crossings will make them useful) Indians have an awesome UU that needs no resources. Otherwise I like the list. Simon, ManOWar is the English UU but you can get privateers from killing barb galleys. The carrrack is a Frigate but sucks. __________________ 3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?

24-04-2006, 02:53	#7
Whomp King Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago. Posts: 2,388	I don't think the carrack is even a frigate it's a souped up galleon with 2-2 A/D. Remember all traits need to be represented so we will have a scientific with some civ so the Koreans are less attractive. The chances of no iron is pretty remote as well so I think the Indians are somewhat negated even though the extra HP helps. Agricultural/seafaring/scientific/industrial/religous/commercial/expansionist/militaristic __________________ If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.--W. C. Fields

24-04-2006, 03:01	#8
Tubby Rower Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle of VA. Posts: 3,896	gotcha... I didn't think about not duplicating the traits. Here are my choices Koreans as com and sci Portugese as exp and sea Egyptians rel and ind is there an agr and Mil civ? I didn't pick the Mayans mainly because they could irrigate like crazy and grow through the roof __________________ 3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?

24-04-2006, 05:05	#9
Whomp King Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago. Posts: 2,388	Upon further thinking here are a few civs I was thinking in combo. Either giving them defensive or late UU's combos. This is like a puzzle and nothing exactly works out but here's a try... America exp/ind Germany sci/mil English sea/comm and the Celts as rel/ag or Ports exp/sea Korean comm/sci Egypt rel/ind Aztec mil/ag Tough to make combos... __________________ If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.--W. C. Fields

24-04-2006, 07:04	#10
Beorn Disabled Vet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: RAWR! Posts: 1,555	I think what we need to decide on is what we prioritize: do we make a few overly bad or do we make them evenly bad. And do we emphasize on UU; if so, on bad, defensive or late. I'm for giving them bad/late UU's as a medium priority, and make them evenly bad. Will try and draw something up. __________________ Please do not annoy, torment, pester, plague, molest, worry, badger, harry, harrass, heckle, persecute, irk, bullyrag, vex, disquiet, grate, beset, bother, tease, nettle, tantalize or ruffle the animals. San Diego Wild Animal Park