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Old 08-06-2006, 01:46   #1
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Default World Cup Futures game

You guys have me all fired up for World Cup action so I thought we'd try a different kind of game. There's a website that trades the futures prices on each team so I thought we'd play along.

Here's how it works....
Everyone gets 500 euros. No fractional purchases, rounding will always be down and I hope you'll help me to keep your account straight.

The beauty is you can jump in the game at any point but those building profits early will have an advantage.

Ultimately all prices will end at either 0 or 100 but will change every day during the Cup. I'll keep the daily prices by posting them once a day(unless someone in Europe wants to help me).

I'm GMT -5 so I'll update the market prices at midnight GMT.

You can buy (long) at the ask and sell at the bid. This means you can sell a country short as well.

Two examples:
Let say you buy (long) 9 Brazil at 52 this costs you 468 invested and 32 Euros in cash however if you sold 9 Brazil you'd receive 51 or 459 Euros.

On a short you want the price of that team to go down. But be careful because you can't lose more than the cash (or long "buy positions") you have and the next days offer will be used to calculate your short position meaning your cash balance will rise or fall daily if you short sell.

For instance if you have 500 euros and sell short 20 units at 15 (300 euros invested and 200 in cash) and the price goes up to 25you're wiped out or have to sell one of your "buy positions" to cover. I will mark to market daily against your cash if you short sell a team. Meaning don't run into a team that's rising daily or it will hurt you cash and possibly force you to sell a long position.

I'm going to eliminate some of the weaker teams so you can't trade them. You'll also note that some teams have a wider bid offer spread since they are less actively traded so be careful trading these teams.
As Propain more succintly put it here's how trades can be done.


you can buy at last midnights prices untill todays matches start. When the 1st match starts the market closes and reopens at next midnight GMT.

Current market prices
Bid Offer and daily change
[code]
http://www.tradesports.com/aav2/trad...wExpired=false

Green = big up move
Red = big down move
Code:
Bid Offer Chge 
[b]Trade WC.BRAZIL.INDEX  
Bid 51.4 offer 52.0  unchanged 
6/8 closing prices 
Bid 51.1 Offer 52.0  unchanged 
6/9 closing prices 
51.0 51.5 -0.5 
6/10 closing prices 
51.2 51.5 unchanged 
6/11 closing prices 
50.0 51.5 unchanged
6/12 closing prices
50.5 51.0 -0.5
6/13 closing prices
52.1 55.0 +4.0
6/14 closing prices
50.3 51.6 -3.4
6/15 closing prices
50.0 50.8 -0.8
6/16 closing prices
49.5 50.0 -0.8
6/17 closing prices
48.2 49.8 -0.2
6/18 closing prices
49.0 50.0 +0.2
6/19 closing prices
49.2 49.8 -0.2
6/20 closing prices
48.5 49.6 -0.2
6/21 closing prices
47.5 48.2 -1.4
6/22 closing prices
51.0 54.0 +5.8
6/24 closing price
52.5 54.5 
6/25 closing prices
54.7 55.5 +1.0

Trade WC.ENGLAND.INDEX  
34.3 34.5  
6/8 closing prices	 
33.5 34.0 +0.5
6/9 closing prices  
34.7 37.3 +3.3
6/10 closing prices
38.7 38.8 +1.5
6/11 closing prices
38.2 38.8 unchanged
6/12 closing prices
38.0 38.2 -0.6
6/13 closing prices
38.0 38.2 unch
6/14 closing prices
38.2 38.9 +0.7
6/15 closing prices
38.7 39.4 +0.5
6/16 closing prices
37.3 37.5 -1.9
6/17 closing prices
 36.0 38.0 +0.5
6/18 closing prices
36.5 37.8 -0.2
6/19 closing prices
37.0 37.6 -0.2
6/20 closing prices
38.0 41.0 +3.4
6/21 closing prices
39.0 40.8 -0.2
6/22 closing prices
39.6 40.3 -0.5 
6/24 closing price
46.2 47.5 +7.2
6/25 closing prices
47.8 48.0 +0.5

Trade WC.GERMANY.INDEX  
33.2 33.4   
6/8 closing prices	 
33.2 33.6 +0.3
6/9 closing prices 
34.2 36.8 +3.2
6/10 closing prices
34.7 36.0 -0.8
6/11 closing prices
34.8 35.5 -0.5
6/12 closing prices
34.8 35.0 -0.5
6/13 closing prices
34.0 35.0 unch
6/14 closing prices
.....
6/15 closing prices
34.5 37.5 +2.5
6/16 closing prices
33.5 35.0 -2.5
6/17 closing prices
34.2 34.8 -0.2
6/18 closing prices
33.5 34.8 unch
6/19 closing prices
33.5 35.0 +0.2
6/20 closing prices
36.5 39.0 +4.0
6/21 closing prices
38.0 38.5 -0.5
6/22 closing prices
36.5 38.5 unch
6/24 closing price 
48.2 48.8  +10.3
6/25 closing prices
47.7 48.3 -0.5

Trade WC.FRANCE.INDEX  
31.5 32.0  
6/8 closing prices	 
31.7 32.1  +0.1
6/9 closing prices
31.6 32.0 -0.1
6/10 closing prices
31.5 32.0 unch
6/11 closing prices
31.8 32.0 unch
6/12 closing prices
31.3 31.5 -0.5
6/13 closing prices
26.0 29.0 -2.5
6/14 closing prices
26.3 26.8 -2.2
6/15 closing prices
25.7 26.8 unch
6/16 closing prices
 25.2 26.0 -0.8
6/17 closing prices
25.2 25.8 -0.2
6/18 closing prices
17.5 18.0 -7.8
6/19 closing prices
18.0 19.0 +1.0
6/20 closing prices
18.5 19.3 +0.3
6/21 closing prices
18.5 19.3  unch
6/22 closing prices
18.8 19.8 +0.5
6/24 closing price 
23.5 24.0  +4.2 
6/25 closing prices
22.7 23.3 -0.7

Trade WC.ARGENTINA.INDEX  
31.2 31.8 
6/8 closing prices	 
32.3 32.9 +1.1
6/9 closing prices  
31.8 32.0 -0.9 
6/10 closing prices
31.5 32.0 unch
6/11 closing prices
34.2 37.0 +5.0
6/12 closing prices
37.5 38.0 +1.0
6/13 closing prices
38.0 38.5 +0.5
6/14 closing prices
38.0 38.5 unch
6/15 closing prices
39.0 39.3 +0.8
6/16 closing prices
46.2 47.5 +8.2
6/17 closing prices
46.4 47.0 -0.5
6/18 closing prices
47.0 48.5 +1.5
6/19 closing prices
47.2 49.0 +0.5
6/20 closing prices
47.2 48.5 -0.5
6/21 closing prices
45.7 49.0 +0.5
6/22 closing prices
49.5 51.3 +2.3
6/24 closing price
51.2 52.8 +1.5
6/25 closing prices
50.7 52.5 -0.3

Trade WC.ITALY.INDEX  
28.2 28.5 
6/8 closing prices	 
28.0 28.3 -0.2
6/9 closing prices
28.2 28.5 +0.2
6/10 closing prices
28.2 28.5 unch
6/11 closing prices
28.4 28.5 unch
6/12 closing prices
31.0 34.0 +5.5
6/13 closing prices
32.0 33.5 -0.5
6/14 closing prices
31.0 32.0 -1.5
6/15 closing prices
31.0 33.0 +1.0
6/16 closing prices
31.7 32.8 -0.2
6/17 closing prices
25.0 40.0 not accurate
6/18 closing prices
29.0 30.0 -2.8
6/19 closing prices
29.2 30.8 +0.8
6/20 closing prices
30.0 30.5 -0.3
6/21 closing prices
29.2 30.0 -0.5
6/22 closing prices
41.0 43.0 +13 [eek]
6/24 closing price 
43.5 44.5 +1.5
6/25 closing prices
53.7 55.3 +10.8

Trade WC.PORTUGAL.INDEX 	 
24.2 24.8 
6/8 closing prices 
24.2 25.0 +0.2
6/9 closing prices  
24.4 25.0 unch
6/10 closing prices 
24.2 24.8 -0.2
6/11 closing prices
23.0 25.0 +0.2
6/12 closing prices
23.8 24.5 -0.5
6/13 closing prices
23.9 24.5 unch
6/14 closing prices
23.8 24.0  -0.5
6/15 closing prices
23.2 24.0 unch
6/16 closing prices
21.2 23.0 -1.0
6/17 closing prices
24.0 26.0 +3.0
6/18 closing prices
24.2 25.0 -1.0
6/19 closing prices
24.2 25.0 unch
6/20 closing prices
24.0 24.5 -0.5
6/21 closing prices
24.5 25.8 +1.3
6/22 closing prices
24.2 25.3 -0.5
6/24 closing prices
40.0 43  +17.7 
6/25 closing prices
38.7 39.3 -3.7

Trade WC.SPAIN.INDEX  
27.5 28.0  
6/8 closing prices	 
27.5 27.9 -0.1
6/9 closing prices
27.5 28.0  +0.1
6/10 closing prices
27.5 28.0 unch
6/11 closing prices
27.5 28.0 unch
6/12 closing prices
28.0 28.5 +0.5
6/13 closing prices
27.5 28.5 unch
6/14 closing prices
33.9 35.3 +6.8
6/15 closing prices
34.2 35.3 unch
6/16 closing prices
34.0 35.3 
6/17 closing prices
34.0 35.3 
6/18 closing prices
34.0 35.3 
6/19 closing prices
33.0 40.0 +4.7
6/20 closing prices
35.2 35.8 -4.2
6/21 closing prices
35.0 35.8 unch
6/22 closing prices
34.0 35.3 -0.5
6/24 closing prices
30.2 32.0  -3.3
6/25 closing prices
31.5 32.0 unch

Trade WC.UKRAINE.INDEX  
15.2 16.0 0  
6/8 closing prices 	 
15.2 16.0 unch
6/9 closing prices
15.4 16.0 unch
6/10 closing prices
15.4 16.0 unch
6/11 closing prices
15.6 16.0 unch
6/12 closing prices
15.8 16.5 0.5
6/13 closing prices
15.5 16.5 unch
6/14 closing prices
11.2 12.0 -4.5
6/15 closing prices
11.0 13.0 +1.0
6/16 closing prices
11.2 14.0 +1.0
6/17 closing prices
11.0 13.0 -1.0
6/18 closing prices
12.0 13.0 
6/19 closing prices
- - 15.7 +2.7
6/20 closing prices
18.5 20.0 +4.3
6/21 closing prices
18.7 20.0  unch
6/22 closing prices
18.0 20.0 unch
6/24 clsoing prices
21.0 22.0 +2
6/25 closing prices
30.5 32.5 +10.5

Trade WC.GHANA.INDEX 
6/18 closing price
9.5 11.5 
6/19 closing price
10.0 10.5 -1.0 
Code:
6/20 closing prices
10.2 11.5 +1.0
6/21 closing prices
10.0 12.0 +0.5
6/22 closing prices
15.0 16.0 +4.0
6/24 closing prices
13.0 14.5 -1.5
6/25 closing prices
13.0 13.5 -1.0

Investors
barbu1977
1 cash

BCLG100
Trades
sell long 11 England * 48.5 = 533.50
sell short 14  Portugal * 534.80
(1.30) cash proceeds
[u]Current Holdings</u>
short 14  Portugal * 38.2 = 534.80
short 4 France * 22.7 = 90.80 
cash 20.40 - 1.30 proceeds = 19.10


Dell19
trades 
sell long 5 Ukraine * 32 = 160
sell short 2 Ukraine * 32 = 64
cash proceeds 96

[u]Current Holdings</u>
Long 3 England @ 47.50 = 142.50
Long 2 Germany @33.6 = 67.20 
Long 4 Spain @ 27.9 = 111.60 

Cash at 86.30 + 96 proceeds = 182.30 cash 

Digger

[u]Current Holdings</u>
Short Ukraine 10 @ 12 = 120 
short 8 Argentina * 405.6
Cash 25.9


Melifluous
[u]Current holdings</u> 
Trades 
cash was 146
short 4 Ukraine * 32 = 128
Cash 18
[u]Current holdings</u> 
short 4 Ukraine * 32 = 128
Cash 18

Mistfit
[u]Current holdings</u> 
Cash 316.20

Robboo
Trades
sell 4 Brazil @ 61.2 = 244.80
sell 2 England @ 48.5 = 97
sell 2 Germany @ 48.7 = 97.40 
sell 2 Argentina @ 50.7 = 101.4
proceeds = 540.60
cash 87.20 + 540.60 = 627.80
Sell short 12 England * 48.5 = 582
cash 45.80 
[u]Current holdings</u> 
short 12 England * 48.5 = 582
cash 45.80 

romeothemonk
Trades 
Cash 2916.40
Short 25 Ukraine * 32 = 800
[u]Current holdings</u>
short 25 Ukraine * 32 = 800
Cash 2116.40

socralynnek
[u]Current Holdings</u>
long 4 WC.Germany.Index @ 33.60 = 268.80
cash 240

Tubby RowerAdjust
[u]Current holdings</u>
Cash 462.70

kryszcztov
Was also cruising along with 699.20 but got wiped out shorting the USA.
Propain
Was winning with 777.10 but got wiped out shorting USA
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:52   #2
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So can i buy England?---ill buy that
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:54   #3
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I'll buy chzech rep.
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You can buy anything you want. You can buy one team, multiple teams and you can also short teams as well. Tell my how many units you want to buy or short on each country. I will update your account on the OP.
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i'd like to buy as much of England as i can
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I'll then buy 13 WC.CZECH.REP.INDEX *19 = 247
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21 WC.CROATIA.INDEX *12 = 252

And I'll keep 1$ in the bank
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Done you're long 14 England and have 24 in the bank.
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I have some difficulties understanding this game... Care to explain me more ?
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I want long italy for all my loot
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So do prices go up if a team win a game etc?
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