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Old 16-12-2003, 11:41   #241
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I dont see how it is cheating. Exploitive yes. There have been many instances where players discovered something that gave an edge until it was generally known. RCP for example.

a) there is no rule against it and Ainwood has said he doesnt intend to outlaw it.
b) you can get a longer not shorter period of anarchy so there is an element of risk involved.

I agree that the length of anarchy is a pain. At present it is related to the number of cities you have. It is not entirely random.
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Old 16-12-2003, 12:09   #242
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Indeed Ribannah we have already seen in this thread that you use the word "lie" at will and with no restriction whatsoever, now we can see that that you also have trouble understanding the meaning of "cheat".
That could explain a lot indeed
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Old 16-12-2003, 12:16   #243
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ahem, col, I have never seen it go uo, even if I started with 5 turns of anarchy.
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Old 16-12-2003, 12:39   #244
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I dont see how it is cheating. Exploitive yes. There have been many instances where players discovered something that gave an edge until it was generally known. RCP for example.

a) there is no rule against it and Ainwood has said he doesnt intend to outlaw it.
Whether it's allowed or not doesn't define if it is or isn't cheating IMHO. Just like playing short sessions isn't cheating because Cracker says you shouldn't, abusing the end-of-turn report bug isn't not cheating because it isn't forbidden.

We, the players, are the judge of what constitutes cheating and what doesn't. Then when we say the tournament allows cheating, we decide whether we still want to play.

In fact, there are games where cheating is an important part of gameplay, like Cluedo. I don't want Civ to be such a game, however. It's not designed to be one and it takes all the fun away. When I read that even the SirPlebs feel that they have to use every available exploit to stay competitive, that makes me very sad.

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quote:At present it is related to the number of cities you have. It is not entirely random.
That is true, if your empire is larger the non-random part of the anarchy period is shorter. Personally I think it should be the other way around: it's historically easier to change the type of government in a small empire.
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Old 16-12-2003, 12:42   #245
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Why not set up a MP game with Ribannah and see if she's really that good?
I hereby challenge her


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Old 16-12-2003, 12:47   #246
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her, cruise, her IIRC


robannah, how about a 1 vs1?
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Old 16-12-2003, 12:59   #247
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MP is another game entirely. I have never played it, so I'll probably suck hopelessly, if only because I have a short attention span.
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Old 16-12-2003, 13:09   #248
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Here is a must-read for everyone who has posted in this thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...23#post1441723

Some well-known GOTM players, including SirPleb, are confessing to a particular, big way of cheating.
Stop colouring everyting to try to make yourself sound less like a cheater. Eevrybody knows about this 'bug'. It's not cheating, it's just an exploit, which was perfectly allowed in all the GOTMs...

I find it rather amusing though, that you of all people are now calling other people cheaters....
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Old 16-12-2003, 13:18   #249
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MP is another game entirely. I have never played it, so I'll probably suck hopelessly, if only because I have a short attention span.
no, PBEM means you cna structure the game as you please, a turn a day or so.
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Old 16-12-2003, 14:21   #250
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Cruise didn't say PBEM. That should indeed be possible for me, I may try it some time (but not now! I have too much on my hands already!)
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