Civilization 5 is coming

Shabbaman · 19-02-2010, 16:20

Are you looking forward to it?

barbu1977 · 19-02-2010, 16:29

I said no. I just don't have time to play that much anymore.

Beam · 19-02-2010, 16:34

Yes, even more since I'm not playing Civ IV a lot anymore.

akots · 19-02-2010, 18:49

Civ4 is still quite an ugly game despite all the mods and expansions and patches. It has some strengths but gameplay is not smooth and not very enjoyable. Hopefully, Civ5 might improve on that.

BCLG100 · 19-02-2010, 21:29

I'd certainly like to see how it turns out. People thought that civ 4 wouldnt catch on in the manner civ3 did when it first came out but times have changed... (at least that bloody revolutions rubbish never did!)

Socrates · 20-02-2010, 12:25

I like cookies :
- No more Windows here. Haven't played Civ since mid-2007.
- Still my all-time favourite video game, for various reasons, so I wanna know what they do with the legacy.

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Originally Posted by akots

Civ4 is still quite an ugly game despite all the mods and expansions and patches. It has some strengths but gameplay is not smooth and not very enjoyable. Hopefully, Civ5 might improve on that.

Could be an idea to quickly sum up strengths and weaknesses of Civ4, especially compared to the previous versions of the series. As a final judgement before we move on to Civ5.

Shabbaman · 01-03-2010, 17:02

Pro: it's here, civ5 is not. I like civ4 a lot, but I don't have the time or patience to spend time on it. I think I should get a laptop to play it on the couch/in the garden/on holiday or something, maybe that will work. Civ4 has a lot working for it, but there was something about civ3 that was appealing. I think it's the lack of micromanagement in civ4, dunno. I think I forgot...

What's still bugging me about civ4 is the crappy resource placement. Was that any better in civ3? I forgot...

BCLG100 · 01-03-2010, 17:55

No, if anything it was worse from what i remember because if you didn't have certain resources you were absolutely screwed. Now at least you have a chance.

akots · 01-03-2010, 20:46

IMO, it is quite as opposite. Civ4 has substantially more sophisticated system of micromanagement which actually requires use of spreadsheet calculations early in the game and great skill later on. MM in Civ3 was more straightforward and intuitive while in Civ4, it is sometimes subtle and certainly more important.

Never used the spreadsheet though I'm not an elite player, just an amateur. Professionals do it professionally and once you get to play a few SGOTMs with Obormot, Lexad, Grey Cardinal or Dynamic, the gap becomes quite evident.

I certainly played more of Civ3 than Civ4 but even considering this, I cannot ever hope to approach their level of understanding of the game. I simply don't know what I do wrong most of the time. In Civ3, I knew it, I was just too lazy to correct it since it was conveniet and not so boring to play with my play style and it brought in quite good results.

Shabbaman · 01-03-2010, 21:58

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Originally Posted by akots

IMO, it is quite as opposite. Civ4 has substantially more sophisticated system of micromanagement which actually requires use of spreadsheet calculations early in the game and great skill later on. MM in Civ3 was more straightforward and intuitive while in Civ4, it is sometimes subtle and certainly more important.

Maybe that's what it is, apparently I just don't get civ4.

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Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Yes, even more since I'm not playing Civ IV a lot anymore. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

19-02-2010, 18:49	#4
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	Civ4 is still quite an ugly game despite all the mods and expansions and patches. It has some strengths but gameplay is not smooth and not very enjoyable. Hopefully, Civ5 might improve on that. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

19-02-2010, 21:29	#5
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	I'd certainly like to see how it turns out. People thought that civ 4 wouldnt catch on in the manner civ3 did when it first came out but times have changed... (at least that bloody revolutions rubbish never did!) __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

01-03-2010, 17:02	#7
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Pro: it's here, civ5 is not. I like civ4 a lot, but I don't have the time or patience to spend time on it. I think I should get a laptop to play it on the couch/in the garden/on holiday or something, maybe that will work. Civ4 has a lot working for it, but there was something about civ3 that was appealing. I think it's the lack of micromanagement in civ4, dunno. I think I forgot... What's still bugging me about civ4 is the crappy resource placement. Was that any better in civ3? I forgot... __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

01-03-2010, 17:55	#8
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	No, if anything it was worse from what i remember because if you didn't have certain resources you were absolutely screwed. Now at least you have a chance. __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

01-03-2010, 20:46	#9
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	IMO, it is quite as opposite. Civ4 has substantially more sophisticated system of micromanagement which actually requires use of spreadsheet calculations early in the game and great skill later on. MM in Civ3 was more straightforward and intuitive while in Civ4, it is sometimes subtle and certainly more important. Never used the spreadsheet though I'm not an elite player, just an amateur. Professionals do it professionally and once you get to play a few SGOTMs with Obormot, Lexad, Grey Cardinal or Dynamic, the gap becomes quite evident. I certainly played more of Civ3 than Civ4 but even considering this, I cannot ever hope to approach their level of understanding of the game. I simply don't know what I do wrong most of the time. In Civ3, I knew it, I was just too lazy to correct it since it was conveniet and not so boring to play with my play style and it brought in quite good results. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)