Forum software poll

ProPain · 13-11-2006, 23:01

There's been a lot/some of VB talking for over a year now. I have claimed new domains so we have some migration leeway but a content migration might prove to be difficult. Some people like our current software, some dont, fact is VB would solve some weird Windows2003SE/snitz incompatibilities and lack of snitz features like:

Pro's
- 200kb upload limit: this is a bug, we didnt had this on the old server. VB fora I run on this server dont suffer from this.
- email notification: another new server bug
- thread splitting : not possible in Snitz, but not a real biggie
- we can have more people edit the frontpage. (with addon though)
- better moderator management possible, we can split 'real'mods from 'own forum' mods

Cons:
- migration of old content might prove impossible/difficult. I fear we'll lose some content even in the best possible scenario
- spambots. VB is much more widely used forum, much more spambots will start bothering you. Cycling Champion has several a day atm already.
- it's a hassle which will take time.

I'm prepared to change stuff around however when:
- you guys want it
- some of you will help me out and lend a hand

So the million dollar question is:

Do you want the forum software changed to VB

(and whatever you guys choose, spamming will always be allowed

)

socralynnek · 13-11-2006, 23:10

I got used to the forum here, although email-notification or better PM system or more upload would be nice...

So I voted "Don't care"

Kemal · 13-11-2006, 23:10

We definitely need to keep the old content!

If that can't be guaranteed I say don't move. I know of several very old but classic threads that are still a great read. On a personal note, I definitely absolutely would not like to lose the following threads/fora:

- All DDPP related threads
- All my own spoiler threads plus the spoilers of other people in those games
- ISDG c3c semifinal forum

Probably there are a lot of other good spoilers too that don't immediately come to mind. I regularly read old spoilers of people like Jack Merchant, anarres, DrA etc...

Of course, I'm willing to give any assistance needed in moving or preserving these threads.

Darkness · 13-11-2006, 23:13

I agree with Kemal

BCLG100 · 14-11-2006, 00:47

i dont care either way tbh

Matrix · 14-11-2006, 00:56

Give us vBulletin!

I don't care that much about old content. But what I do wish we keep is the same modability as we have now for our own subforum.

akots · 14-11-2006, 01:05

It would be important to keep the old contents alive IMHO. If it is at risk of being lost, that is not good.

Socrates · 14-11-2006, 01:32

Voted : gimme vB.

- Difficult or impossible migration : if it appears we'd lose much, here is an idea. Just keep everything at CDZ until this point in this state (Snitz), start a new vB forum from scratch, and include a big link at a very convenient place in both forums. That way, we enjoy vB, while being able to do our nostalgic geek by clicking on one link, entering an old world. Alice in Wonderland...

- Old stuff alive (consequence of above) : We could still keep the Snitz part open (I assume both forums would be kept on a same server), so as to update old threads. If it costs money to keep Snitz alive, just copy/paste said threads, or there must be a solution (get a life ?

).

- Spambots : can't help you there, I have no experience of admin. If we can purely delete them as they come, fine (just keep one for PP's game though).

- Hassle : Using this Snitz software IS the real hassle. I started to post that way here recently : go into a thread, ooh ! I wanna post an answer, open a new tab (Firefox) for my reply or quote, write my message, post it, and voilà !! Once I've checked the spelling and stuff, I'm done and close the new tab, click Back to get back to Active Topics. Etc...

- Retro feel : IMHO, Snitz is the obsolete stuff. I think we could custom vB to a retro feel the way that pleases us, ie. a real kitsch forum.

Hey, I would even let anar's purple colour (crazy English) if you want to keep it.

- Same modability : Definitely. We want our own forums, that's the essence of CDZ ! PP is saying it's handled better in vB, so no worries. I have one special request : if we could be allowed to create sub-forums in our own forums (I'd like to seperate Civ3 from Civ4 from the rest).

BCLG100 · 14-11-2006, 02:11

Snitz does sound better than Vb though- the name that is...

Shabbaman · 14-11-2006, 07:48

I have no problems with snitz besides the lack of threadsplitting. But I think we're reaching a limit regarding the number of (pbem) moderators. We have to find a better solution for that. I don't know if vB gives us that. I don't like vB that much anyway.

Dr. A. said he'd like to help with the migration. Cookie for him.

View Poll Results: Forum software poll
Nah, stick with Snitz. I love the retro feel	3	17.65%
Yes, give us shiny new VB!	4	23.53%
Yes, I like some VB but only if we get to keep most of the old content	7	41.18%
Don't care either way	3	17.65%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

13-11-2006, 23:01	#1
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Forum software poll There's been a lot/some of VB talking for over a year now. I have claimed new domains so we have some migration leeway but a content migration might prove to be difficult. Some people like our current software, some dont, fact is VB would solve some weird Windows2003SE/snitz incompatibilities and lack of snitz features like: Pro's - 200kb upload limit: this is a bug, we didnt had this on the old server. VB fora I run on this server dont suffer from this. - email notification: another new server bug - thread splitting : not possible in Snitz, but not a real biggie - we can have more people edit the frontpage. (with addon though) - better moderator management possible, we can split 'real'mods from 'own forum' mods Cons: - migration of old content might prove impossible/difficult. I fear we'll lose some content even in the best possible scenario - spambots. VB is much more widely used forum, much more spambots will start bothering you. Cycling Champion has several a day atm already. - it's a hassle which will take time. I'm prepared to change stuff around however when: - you guys want it - some of you will help me out and lend a hand So the million dollar question is: Do you want the forum software changed to VB (and whatever you guys choose, spamming will always be allowed ) __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

13-11-2006, 23:10	#2
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	I got used to the forum here, although email-notification or better PM system or more upload would be nice... So I voted "Don't care" __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

13-11-2006, 23:10	#3
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	We definitely need to keep the old content! If that can't be guaranteed I say don't move. I know of several very old but classic threads that are still a great read. On a personal note, I definitely absolutely would not like to lose the following threads/fora: - All DDPP related threads - All my own spoiler threads plus the spoilers of other people in those games - ISDG c3c semifinal forum Probably there are a lot of other good spoilers too that don't immediately come to mind. I regularly read old spoilers of people like Jack Merchant, anarres, DrA etc... Of course, I'm willing to give any assistance needed in moving or preserving these threads. __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

13-11-2006, 23:13	#4
Darkness Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 4,169	I agree with Kemal __________________ "Death is lighter than a feather, but duty is heavier than a mountain..." - The Eye of the World

14-11-2006, 00:47	#5
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	i dont care either way tbh __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

14-11-2006, 00:56	#6
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	Give us vBulletin! I don't care that much about old content. But what I do wish we keep is the same modability as we have now for our own subforum. __________________

14-11-2006, 01:05	#7
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	It would be important to keep the old contents alive IMHO. If it is at risk of being lost, that is not good. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

14-11-2006, 01:32	#8
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	Voted : gimme vB. - Difficult or impossible migration : if it appears we'd lose much, here is an idea. Just keep everything at CDZ until this point in this state (Snitz), start a new vB forum from scratch, and include a big link at a very convenient place in both forums. That way, we enjoy vB, while being able to do our nostalgic geek by clicking on one link, entering an old world. Alice in Wonderland... - Old stuff alive (consequence of above) : We could still keep the Snitz part open (I assume both forums would be kept on a same server), so as to update old threads. If it costs money to keep Snitz alive, just copy/paste said threads, or there must be a solution (get a life ? ). - Spambots : can't help you there, I have no experience of admin. If we can purely delete them as they come, fine (just keep one for PP's game though). - Hassle : Using this Snitz software IS the real hassle. I started to post that way here recently : go into a thread, ooh ! I wanna post an answer, open a new tab (Firefox) for my reply or quote, write my message, post it, and voilà !! Once I've checked the spelling and stuff, I'm done and close the new tab, click Back to get back to Active Topics. Etc... - Retro feel : IMHO, Snitz is the obsolete stuff. I think we could custom vB to a retro feel the way that pleases us, ie. a real kitsch forum. Hey, I would even let anar's purple colour (crazy English) if you want to keep it. - Same modability : Definitely. We want our own forums, that's the essence of CDZ ! PP is saying it's handled better in vB, so no worries. I have one special request : if we could be allowed to create sub-forums in our own forums (I'd like to seperate Civ3 from Civ4 from the rest). __________________ Sent from my Debian

14-11-2006, 02:11	#9
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	Snitz does sound better than Vb though- the name that is... __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

14-11-2006, 07:48	#10
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,493	I have no problems with snitz besides the lack of threadsplitting. But I think we're reaching a limit regarding the number of (pbem) moderators. We have to find a better solution for that. I don't know if vB gives us that. I don't like vB that much anyway. Dr. A. said he'd like to help with the migration. Cookie for him. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"