Aggie vs Jack Merchant 3 *spoiler* - Page 2

Skyfish · 29-08-2003, 07:55

Nice trading round but I would not spend so much for Monarchy...not very important anyway...

Aggie · 29-08-2003, 08:03

True, now that I read it again I wonder why I did it

Aggie · 31-08-2003, 14:20

Turn 122:

One turn from the completion of the FP:

22.31KB

Turn 123:

This changed after completion of the FP in Frankfurt:

21.04KB

I bought Education from the Persians. The Persians need to grow, they are Jack neighbour

. Next goal is to conquer an Indian enclave, developthe new core and get banks.

Aggie · 31-08-2003, 16:05

Turn125:

Why can't I force India to leave? They are tresspassing with a clear prupose of stealing a city

17.79*KB

See, no ROP!

49.33*KB

And no possibility to get them out!

70.28*KB

EDIT: I defended the city with a couple of horses, thinking the India now would retreat. I was wrong! They declare war and the warrior manages to kill a horse. Oh well, I was waiting for this and now I can take one of their towns

Aggie · 02-09-2003, 00:11

Turn 131:

I buy banking for 55 gpt and then can trade:
- Printing Press
- Invention
- Gunpowder
- Chemistry (for tech and 100 gold with the Ottomans. Maybe my next 'victim', since I fear Sipahi).

The AI mostly have Metallurgy. I hope to get into the IA with the first of the AI, to profit from my free tech.

India still doesn't want peace

. Jack might be able to profit from banking now as well, since I couldn't close the 2fer1, 3fer1 possibility.

Turn 132:

Jack trades me Astronomy for Chemistry.

17.25*KB

Persia wants 19 gold. I refuse. Persia declares war. My income jumps from 40 gpt to 110 gpt

.

I now can buy Metallurgy for 65 gpt from France.
France and Greece know military Tradition already

And no-one can buy Metallurgy

Turn 133:

India and Germany make peace for Military Tradition, in return for 55 gpt. I still make a nice sum and will have banks soon. Now to build up those cavs

Aggie · 04-09-2003, 17:37

Turn 150:

The AI is Industrial. According to Jack also Persia and Ottomans, the other two scientific civs. When I get the turn back, I can see that Jack at least does not have Nationalism.

I have to switch a lot of tiles to commerce, but I am able to increase my income from 75 to 110 gpt. This allows me to do the following deal:

16.48KB

I get Medicine for free and I'm the only one

. Cheap tech, but still I'm the only one.

Trade follows:

-France gives me 220 gold and 105 gpt for Medicine
-The Ottomans give me 1890 gold for Medicine
-India gives me 76 gpt and 100 gold for Medicine
-Greece gives me Steam Power for 181 gpt, 1550 gold and Medicine
-France gives me 130 gpt for Steam
-The Ottomans give me 2090 gold for Steam

I now make 184 gpt and have 2085 gold in cash

.

Rome and India don't have an extra tech (both are broke), just like Jack. This makes it difficult for him to trade.

Turn 151:

A couple of deals end and now I make 255 gpt. This will increase in the next turns to 300 gpt at least. This is all before rails. I do have two coal sources, not hooked up yet. Jack also has coal, although he doesn't know that yet.

The world is at peace, but the AI is making MPP's.

ERIKK · 04-09-2003, 18:49

Very good trading aggie!

anarres · 04-09-2003, 18:57

That is an amazing amount of cash to get our of the AI at this stage!

Aggie · 04-09-2003, 19:03

It is indeed amazing. The Ottomans and Greeks together had 12000 gold in cash. I was at first a bit dissapointed with Medicine as free tech, but now I'm only two techs from Scientific Method! This game is really fast paced too, because we are just at turn 150.

Good thing: stealing is twice as expensive and at this moment an immediate steal already costs 2500 gold.

I decided to leave the AI alone for a while. My first real war may start when I get panzers. Jack surely has a couple of conquistadors, but does het really have the heart to attack the leaders of the world, the Persians?

The world map at turn 151:

8.18*KB

The powergraph:

28.49*KB

Turn 153:

I now make 393 gpt without rails (no science, lone scientist on sanitation). This is largely my own income. I pay about the same sum of gpt as I receive.

ERIKK · 04-09-2003, 20:56

I think panzers will rock!

29-08-2003, 07:55	#11
Skyfish Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: dead. Posts: 2,349	Nice trading round but I would not spend so much for Monarchy...not very important anyway... __________________ <font color=\"brown\"> <b><i>\"NOT back from the dead\"</b></i> </font id=\"brown\">

04-09-2003, 18:57	#18
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	That is an amazing amount of cash to get our of the AI at this stage! __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

29-08-2003, 08:03	#12
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	True, now that I read it again I wonder why I did it

31-08-2003, 14:20	#13
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Turn 122: One turn from the completion of the FP: 22.31KB Turn 123: This changed after completion of the FP in Frankfurt: 21.04KB I bought Education from the Persians. The Persians need to grow, they are Jack neighbour . Next goal is to conquer an Indian enclave, developthe new core and get banks.

31-08-2003, 16:05	#14
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Turn125: Why can't I force India to leave? They are tresspassing with a clear prupose of stealing a city 17.79KB See, no ROP! 49.33KB And no possibility to get them out! 70.28*KB EDIT: I defended the city with a couple of horses, thinking the India now would retreat. I was wrong! They declare war and the warrior manages to kill a horse. Oh well, I was waiting for this and now I can take one of their towns

02-09-2003, 00:11	#15
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Turn 131: I buy banking for 55 gpt and then can trade: - Printing Press - Invention - Gunpowder - Chemistry (for tech and 100 gold with the Ottomans. Maybe my next 'victim', since I fear Sipahi). The AI mostly have Metallurgy. I hope to get into the IA with the first of the AI, to profit from my free tech. India still doesn't want peace . Jack might be able to profit from banking now as well, since I couldn't close the 2fer1, 3fer1 possibility. Turn 132: Jack trades me Astronomy for Chemistry. 17.25*KB Persia wants 19 gold. I refuse. Persia declares war. My income jumps from 40 gpt to 110 gpt . I now can buy Metallurgy for 65 gpt from France. France and Greece know military Tradition already And no-one can buy Metallurgy Turn 133: India and Germany make peace for Military Tradition, in return for 55 gpt. I still make a nice sum and will have banks soon. Now to build up those cavs

04-09-2003, 17:37	#16
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Turn 150: The AI is Industrial. According to Jack also Persia and Ottomans, the other two scientific civs. When I get the turn back, I can see that Jack at least does not have Nationalism. I have to switch a lot of tiles to commerce, but I am able to increase my income from 75 to 110 gpt. This allows me to do the following deal: 16.48KB I get Medicine for free and I'm the only one . Cheap tech, but still I'm the only one. Trade follows: -France gives me 220 gold and 105 gpt for Medicine -The Ottomans give me 1890 gold for Medicine -India gives me 76 gpt and 100 gold for Medicine -Greece gives me Steam Power for 181 gpt, 1550 gold and Medicine -France gives me 130 gpt for Steam -The Ottomans give me 2090 gold for Steam I now make 184 gpt and have 2085 gold in cash . Rome and India don't have an extra tech (both are broke), just like Jack. This makes it difficult for him to trade. Turn 151: A couple of deals end and now I make 255 gpt. This will increase in the next turns to 300 gpt at least. This is all before rails. I do have two coal sources, not hooked up yet. Jack also has coal, although he doesn't know that yet. The world is at peace, but the AI is making MPP's.

04-09-2003, 18:49	#17
ERIKK Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands!. Posts: 2,636	Very good trading aggie!

04-09-2003, 19:03	#19
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	It is indeed amazing. The Ottomans and Greeks together had 12000 gold in cash. I was at first a bit dissapointed with Medicine as free tech, but now I'm only two techs from Scientific Method! This game is really fast paced too, because we are just at turn 150. Good thing: stealing is twice as expensive and at this moment an immediate steal already costs 2500 gold. I decided to leave the AI alone for a while. My first real war may start when I get panzers. Jack surely has a couple of conquistadors, but does het really have the heart to attack the leaders of the world, the Persians? The world map at turn 151: 8.18KB The powergraph: 28.49KB Turn 153: I now make 393 gpt without rails (no science, lone scientist on sanitation). This is largely my own income. I pay about the same sum of gpt as I receive.

04-09-2003, 20:56	#20
ERIKK Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands!. Posts: 2,636	I think panzers will rock!