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Tubby Rower · 04-10-2007, 19:54

Ok here's one for you....

I live in Virginia and have recently had an urge to get a revolver and start target-practicing. I'll be traveling to South Carolina (obviously through N. Carolina) and would like to take my handgun to my parents house so I could shoot it with my dad. We'll be driving in a minivan with no separate trunk to keep the gun locked in. What's the best way to transport said firearm? fwiw, I won't have a conceal permit although they are very easy to get in Virginia... Other pertainent things I know, Virginia has an open-carry law without a permit, NC has one with a permit required and SC bans open carry.

on a side note: the urge mentioned above is scaring me a bit. It's not the kind of urge like "Oo oo, let's get a go-kart and build a race track!!". It's more like the urge that I HAVE to do this for whatever reason. I don't watch many violent TV shows and don't play shoot'em games. I haven't shot a gun since I was a teenager. The only reason that I could think of why I would need to do this is that I would need to defend myself/my family. We live in a great neighborhood with no illicit activities going on. It's more like an old-people neighborhood. Other urges that have felt similar to this have had a reason behind it and I've had at least 2 in the past. I'm not a psycho just a little weird.

akots · 04-10-2007, 20:10

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Yes, I am a US lawyer but a lazy one. I do corporate, personal injury, and workers comp mostly.

Do you have any idea about immigration law?

Regarding corporate, injury and other stuff, I'll have a few questions also. Just need more time to think about how to ask.

killercane · 04-10-2007, 20:33

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My question, can you sue I'D (host of CivIVor) for the destruction of your team? [;p]

No I will have my revenge in the BTS game.

You'll have to find me first.

You follow Supreme Court stuff, like Parker/Heller v. DC?

It depends on the case. I havent really read much about Parker/Heller but I dont think banning all guns passes muster under the relevant precedent. The Court has been loath to agree that the 2nd Am only applies to militia rights and not individual rights, as it looks like that is one of the things they are arguing there.

killercane · 04-10-2007, 20:36

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Ok here's one for you....

I live in Virginia and have recently had an urge to get a revolver and start target-practicing. I'll be traveling to South Carolina (obviously through N. Carolina) and would like to take my handgun to my parents house so I could shoot it with my dad. We'll be driving in a minivan with no separate trunk to keep the gun locked in. What's the best way to transport said firearm? fwiw, I won't have a conceal permit although they are very easy to get in Virginia... Other pertainent things I know, Virginia has an open-carry law without a permit, NC has one with a permit required and SC bans open carry.

on a side note: the urge mentioned above is scaring me a bit. It's not the kind of urge like "Oo oo, let's get a go-kart and build a race track!!". It's more like the urge that I HAVE to do this for whatever reason. I don't watch many violent TV shows and don't play shoot'em games. I haven't shot a gun since I was a teenager. The only reason that I could think of why I would need to do this is that I would need to defend myself/my family. We live in a great neighborhood with no illicit activities going on. It's more like an old-people neighborhood. Other urges that have felt similar to this have had a reason behind it and I've had at least 2 in the past. I'm not a psycho just a little weird.

Get a lockbox of some sort with a locked lock

. Unless you are arrested, there should be no reason to search your vehicle; if you are arrested, they can search your vehicle incident to the arrest. Never give consent to search; it is your right to refuse.

killercane · 04-10-2007, 20:40

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Yes, I am a US lawyer but a lazy one. I do corporate, personal injury, and workers comp mostly.

Do you have any idea about immigration law?

Regarding corporate, injury and other stuff, I'll have a few questions also. Just need more time to think about how to ask.

Very limited. I worked with a guy who did some Latin and French immigration, and additonally I have helped some people fill out some I-129s and I-130s, among other things. A lot of "immigration lawyers" just fill out the paperwork and assist with the process. If court time is anticipated, you probably need a specialist firm that concentrates solely on immigration.

Beam · 04-10-2007, 20:45

How about sueing the NRA for promoting ownership of gear (guns, rifles) that has wounding / killing as its main purpose? I know it is poorly phrased but hope you get the point.

killercane · 04-10-2007, 20:51

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How about sueing the NRA for promoting ownership of gear (guns, rifles) that has wounding / killing as its main purpose? I know it is poorly phrased but hope you get the point.

Since no one has won a case against a gun manufacturer for similar lawsuits (though usually some product liability theory is used), I doubt a promoter of gun use will ever be successfully sued. The NRA has deep pockets. How would you define "wounding/killing as its main purpose"? Machine guns and automatic weapons of that nature are illegal under federal law IIRC.

Beam · 04-10-2007, 21:10

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How about sueing the NRA for promoting ownership of gear (guns, rifles) that has wounding / killing as its main purpose? I know it is poorly phrased but hope you get the point.

How would you define "wounding/killing as its main purpose"? Machine guns and automatic weapons of that nature are illegal under federal law IIRC.

So is there a legally accepted definition why machine guns and automatic weapons are illegal? Imo the main diffence between those and guns, rifles is the latter produce less bullets / second.

IglooDude · 04-10-2007, 23:44

@Tubby: Yeah, the locked box for the pistol, and the ammunition in a separate container, ideally that locked as well. Revolver container should stay way in the back, out of any conceivable arm's length of any driver/passengers.

@KC/Beam: IANAL (heh) but automatic rifles/machine guns are "Class III firearms" and are heavily regulated (rather substantial background checks, "tax stamps", you can't buy any manufactured after 1986) at the federal (and usually, state) level but not technically banned. And if the Heller v. DC case gets a thumbs-up from the Supremes, that law's constitutionality will get challenged very very quickly.

Beorn · 04-10-2007, 23:54

I believe that the need to defend oneself by carrying an assault rifle is very legitimate.

ID: IANAL?

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Tubby Rower Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle of VA. Posts: 3,896	Ok here's one for you.... I live in Virginia and have recently had an urge to get a revolver and start target-practicing. I'll be traveling to South Carolina (obviously through N. Carolina) and would like to take my handgun to my parents house so I could shoot it with my dad. We'll be driving in a minivan with no separate trunk to keep the gun locked in. What's the best way to transport said firearm? fwiw, I won't have a conceal permit although they are very easy to get in Virginia... Other pertainent things I know, Virginia has an open-carry law without a permit, NC has one with a permit required and SC bans open carry. on a side note: the urge mentioned above is scaring me a bit. It's not the kind of urge like "Oo oo, let's get a go-kart and build a race track!!". It's more like the urge that I HAVE to do this for whatever reason. I don't watch many violent TV shows and don't play shoot'em games. I haven't shot a gun since I was a teenager. The only reason that I could think of why I would need to do this is that I would need to defend myself/my family. We live in a great neighborhood with no illicit activities going on. It's more like an old-people neighborhood. Other urges that have felt similar to this have had a reason behind it and I've had at least 2 in the past. I'm not a psycho just a little weird. __________________ 3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?

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Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	How about sueing the NRA for promoting ownership of gear (guns, rifles) that has wounding / killing as its main purpose? I know it is poorly phrased but hope you get the point. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

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IglooDude Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Hampshire. Posts: 723	@Tubby: Yeah, the locked box for the pistol, and the ammunition in a separate container, ideally that locked as well. Revolver container should stay way in the back, out of any conceivable arm's length of any driver/passengers. @KC/Beam: IANAL (heh) but automatic rifles/machine guns are "Class III firearms" and are heavily regulated (rather substantial background checks, "tax stamps", you can't buy any manufactured after 1986) at the federal (and usually, state) level but not technically banned. And if the Heller v. DC case gets a thumbs-up from the Supremes, that law's constitutionality will get challenged very very quickly. __________________ \"The new sheriff is in town and I only take vassal states. You don\'t have enough cities to be a vassal.\" - Whomp

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