Wow A Forum of My very own

[Pastorius]

It's not soccer, it is FOOTBALL, you American rugby fanatics!!!111!oneone

[Matrix]

Paalikles,

Norwegian: fotball
Dutch: voetbal
German: fussball
French: football
English: football
American: soccer

[Mistfit]

@Paalikles ~ I got it right 1/2 of the post. I called it football once and soccer once.

[Pastorius]

Matrix, all those European words have the same meaning afaik - foot and ball in combination

The american word for football is just stupid.

Sorry Mistfit, dont mean to shout and all that in your forum, but I really dislike american "cultural imperialism"

[Mistfit]

How is it any less "cultural imperialism" when you try to force your name for a given sport on me?

[Whomp]

metric system, imperial system..tomato, tamotto..pool, pond...its all the same.

[grahamiam]

actually, the word "soccer" may actually come from the word football

quote:Soccer
Soccer is an abbreviation for Association Football. The Football Association was formed in London in October 1863 when representatives of eleven clubs and schools met in an attempt to standardize the rules of the game. One of the rules prohibited the carrying of the ball, a rule that would lead to the Rugby-oriented clubs leaving the Association several months later. The name Association Football was coined to distinguish it from Rugby.

By 1889, the abbreviation socca' was in use, and the spelling soccer had made its appearance by 1895.

source -> http://www.wordorigins.org/wordors.htm

so, Americans are just using a term for the sport derived originally by the English. What's wrong with that?

and another source, from "the word detectives"

quote:Dear Word Detective: I would be interested to learn the origins of the word "soccer." As a Brit currently living in the US, I am often dismayed to hear the term used to describe a sport that I, and many of my countrymen, have always known as "football." Is usage of the word "soccer" within the US simply a way of distinguishing the "beautiful game" from the altogether less appropriately-named sport of American Football (which, to my understanding, is played almost exclusively with one's hands)? -- Pete Collins, via the internet.

You know, as much as I like this question, I can't quite get over the feeling that I'm being set up. After all, I live about 35 miles from Columbus, Ohio, home of the OSU Buckeyes football team, and people around here are bananas (to put it politely) about football. Skeptics on the subject of Buckeye supremacy have, in fact, been known to disappear without a trace along with their household pets. But what the heck, since I've never had the sense God gave cole slaw, I'll stick my neck out and agree that "soccer" is a far more intelligent, skillful and interesting game.

It's true that the game known as "football" in most of the world (not just the UK) is known as "soccer" in the US, but we didn't just pull the word out of the air so that we could call our quasi-gladiatorial extravaganzas "football." In fact, you Brits actually invented the word. "Soccer," when it first appeared in the 1890s, was spelled "socca," which was short for "association" or "association football," meaning football played according to the rules laid down by the British Football Association. It was also called "socker" until the current form "soccer" appeared around 1895.

The "er" suffix of "soccer," incidentally, was often used in late 19th and early 20th century slang, and can also be found in the transformation of the name of the British game "rugby" (named after the Rugby School in England) into the popular term "rugger." Rugby, incidentally, is a sport similar to American football, but played without the helmets and elaborate padding used in American stadiums.

[Pastorius]

quote:One of the rules prohibited the carrying of the ball, a rule that would lead to the Rugby-oriented clubs leaving the Association several months later. The name Association Football was coined to distinguish it from Rugby.

Those "American football" players carry the ball - ergo - they are not playing football. QED

[grahamiam]

yes, but soccer = Associated Football, so what's the problem with that word being used to describe football?

[akots]

Wrong is that football is played with hands, I mean American variety of course.

Cross-posted with Pall and Grah editing and posting again.