Teaching Matrix Civ3: Succession game - Page 3

Beam · 31-03-2004, 21:21

Yep, starting position is neither really good nor really bad.

One thing worth considering is an early coastal city for a curragh. Couple of turns before we get Alpha and have a prebuild. Curraghs rock for early exploration and making contact!

ProPain · 31-03-2004, 21:21

two micromanaging remarks for Matrix :

When you take the turn adjust the lux slider when we grow to 3 (in 1 turn) and also make sure our new citizen will work the bonus grass and not the forest. Comp usually puts the citizen on the forest as it think we;re growing fast enough.

ProPain · 31-03-2004, 21:36

On the coastal city. If we're lucky there's a coastal option with the right dot, maybe we have to move it a square but it might very well be possible.

Matrix · 31-03-2004, 23:08

3500 BC (turn 11)

Moved warrior north: sees a mountain. I like a nice view.

I hope leaving alone the future settler won't cause troubles.
Set lux to 30% since Beijing grew.

3450 BC (turn 12)
Worker done building mine, is starting a road now. The warrior sees a lot of jungle around a mountain in the east.

3400 BC (turn 13)

A Japanese warrior walks on the mountain!! He has: [u]Bronze Working, [u]The Wheel, [u]Ceremonial Burial and 10 gold. I have to offer: [u]Masonry, [u]Warrior Code and 10 gold.
The final offer is: BW+CB for Mas+WC+4g. Why not The Wheel? Because the only way to get that was to give both my techs.

Would he pop the hut? Is my worker in danger?

The warrior walks on the left mountain and sees a lot of grass and fertile land! [

] I hope we can get that.

3350 BC (turn 14)
The warrior's going due south. The worker's done and will follow the same procedure on the other BG beside the river.

3300 BC (turn 15)
Warrior due south. Beijing grows: four tile is forest. Lux at 30% still best.

3250 BC (turn 16)

Settler in Beijing built and is heading for the left city spot. Next production for Beijing: another settler.

The next city will build another warrior.
Lux can be set at 10% again.

3200 BC (turn 17)
The warrior is going west since he's there now anyway.

3150 BC (turn 18)

Japan pops the hut: a conscript warrior for them. Warrior most further west and sees ocean.

3100 BC (turn 19)
Shanghai is built! Very close to Beijing to what I'm used

but hey, if you say so...

As said: he starts building a warrior.

3050 BC (turn 20)

Scandinavia! Just when I thought: "What the hell am I doing there?!"

Now I sent him off to find the Vikings. He has: [u]Alphabet & 10 gold; I have [u]Masonry & 6 gold. I'm doing Alphabet (7 turns to go).

Still I trade Alph+10g for Mas, because...well, it does make us go ahead. Unfortunately I can't trade The Wheel for Alphabet(+16g) with the Japanese.

I started researching Iron Working, but Beam could change that if he wishes since it's chosen this turn.

Beijing grew, but now only 20% lux is necessary, probably because of that road I built.

(Would that have been possible before instead of 30%?

)

The worker will be done next turn; I suggest to build a road there as well and continue roading towards Shanghai following the bonus grassland squares.

There's still no luxury in sight.

That might become our biggest problem.

What's my grade, professor?

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Aggie · 31-03-2004, 23:14

I am nervous about the fact that Japan is so close. Could bring us trouble while we try to settle our lands. Scandinavia sent a warrior as well? Man, this will be a tight spot for us

. But we will win!!

Beam · 31-03-2004, 23:36

Lot happening Matrix! You found us some very friendly and peaceful neighbours

I can play my turns Thu night, just some considerations based on what happened until now:
- Japanese most likely have a monopoly in the Wheel.
- We did Alpha in 20 turns, I think a Philo gambit at max is very well possible.
- We most likely can control the landbridge seperating Viking and Japanese terr. with a city just N of the warrior. But not at first, fertile terrain has prio.

ProPain · 31-03-2004, 23:38

Looks fine to me Matrix!
Although not building a warrior after the 1st settler was a bit risky imo knowing the japs probably would pop that hut. Just imagine what would have happened when barbs would have come out. But it worked out great so

Good job on the tech deals, with our neighbours so close I'm glad we can build spears and archers. I;m not in favor of researching Iron Working though. The AI will research that for sure and chances are they'll do it faster than we can.

We have 2 options, maths and writing. With alpha in so soon I'm in favor of writing we have lots of rivers so maybe we can get that under 50 turns. Depending on the situation we can then do philo if we;re lucky or else literature.

With 2 neighbours so close, we should really expand asap. I'm in favor of moving our 2nd settler towards the right dot because i think we have higher food production there.

ProPain · 31-03-2004, 23:40

lol, almost simultaneous posts. I seems we agree Beam. expand sasp and pursue writing at max.

Matrix · 31-03-2004, 23:52

What will/would you do with the worker?

Beam · 01-04-2004, 00:05

hehe

If we go writing we should monitor a sudden drop in research time if it can not be related to city growth etc.

Other issues for the longer run are lack of luxes atm and how to deal with our "friendly" neighbours. Both call for further exploration imo.

31-03-2004, 21:21	#21
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Yep, starting position is neither really good nor really bad. One thing worth considering is an early coastal city for a curragh. Couple of turns before we get Alpha and have a prebuild. Curraghs rock for early exploration and making contact! __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

31-03-2004, 21:21	#22
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	two micromanaging remarks for Matrix : When you take the turn adjust the lux slider when we grow to 3 (in 1 turn) and also make sure our new citizen will work the bonus grass and not the forest. Comp usually puts the citizen on the forest as it think we;re growing fast enough. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

31-03-2004, 21:36	#23
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	On the coastal city. If we're lucky there's a coastal option with the right dot, maybe we have to move it a square but it might very well be possible. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

31-03-2004, 23:08	#24
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	3500 BC (turn 11) Moved warrior north: sees a mountain. I like a nice view. I hope leaving alone the future settler won't cause troubles. Set lux to 30% since Beijing grew. 3450 BC (turn 12) Worker done building mine, is starting a road now. The warrior sees a lot of jungle around a mountain in the east. 3400 BC (turn 13) A Japanese warrior walks on the mountain!! He has: [u]Bronze Working</u>, [u]The Wheel</u>, [u]Ceremonial Burial</u> and 10 gold. I have to offer: [u]Masonry</u>, [u]Warrior Code</u> and 10 gold. The final offer is: BW+CB for Mas+WC+4g. Why not The Wheel? Because the only way to get that was to give both my techs. Would he pop the hut? Is my worker in danger? The warrior walks on the left mountain and sees a lot of grass and fertile land! [] I hope we can get that. 3350 BC (turn 14) The warrior's going due south. The worker's done and will follow the same procedure on the other BG beside the river. 3300 BC (turn 15) Warrior due south. Beijing grows: four tile is forest. Lux at 30% still best. 3250 BC (turn 16) Settler in Beijing built and is heading for the left city spot. Next production for Beijing: another settler. The next city will build another warrior. Lux can be set at 10% again. 3200 BC (turn 17) The warrior is going west since he's there now anyway. 3150 BC (turn 18) Japan pops the hut: a conscript warrior for them. Warrior most further west and sees ocean. 3100 BC (turn 19) Shanghai is built! Very close to Beijing to what I'm used but hey, if you say so... As said: he starts building a warrior. 3050 BC (turn 20) Scandinavia! Just when I thought: "What the hell am I doing there?!" Now I sent him off to find the Vikings. He has: [u]Alphabet</u> & 10 gold; I have [u]Masonry</u> & 6 gold. I'm doing Alphabet (7 turns to go). Still I trade Alph+10g for Mas, because...well, it does make us go ahead. Unfortunately I can't trade The Wheel for Alphabet(+16g) with the Japanese. I started researching Iron Working, but Beam could change that if he wishes since it's chosen this turn. Beijing grew, but now only 20% lux is necessary, probably because of that road I built. (Would that have been possible before instead of 30%? ) The worker will be done next turn; I suggest to build a road there as well and continue roading towards Shanghai following the bonus grassland squares. There's still no luxury in sight. That might become our biggest problem. What's my grade, professor? Download Attachment: [img]icon_paperclip.gif[/img] BeamSG3050BC.SAV 63.84*KB __________________

31-03-2004, 23:36	#26
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Lot happening Matrix! You found us some very friendly and peaceful neighbours I can play my turns Thu night, just some considerations based on what happened until now: - Japanese most likely have a monopoly in the Wheel. - We did Alpha in 20 turns, I think a Philo gambit at max is very well possible. - We most likely can control the landbridge seperating Viking and Japanese terr. with a city just N of the warrior. But not at first, fertile terrain has prio. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

31-03-2004, 23:14	#25
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	I am nervous about the fact that Japan is so close. Could bring us trouble while we try to settle our lands. Scandinavia sent a warrior as well? Man, this will be a tight spot for us . But we will win!!

31-03-2004, 23:38	#27
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Looks fine to me Matrix! Although not building a warrior after the 1st settler was a bit risky imo knowing the japs probably would pop that hut. Just imagine what would have happened when barbs would have come out. But it worked out great so Good job on the tech deals, with our neighbours so close I'm glad we can build spears and archers. I;m not in favor of researching Iron Working though. The AI will research that for sure and chances are they'll do it faster than we can. We have 2 options, maths and writing. With alpha in so soon I'm in favor of writing we have lots of rivers so maybe we can get that under 50 turns. Depending on the situation we can then do philo if we;re lucky or else literature. With 2 neighbours so close, we should really expand asap. I'm in favor of moving our 2nd settler towards the right dot because i think we have higher food production there. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

31-03-2004, 23:40	#28
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	lol, almost simultaneous posts. I seems we agree Beam. expand sasp and pursue writing at max. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

31-03-2004, 23:52	#29
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	What will/would you do with the worker? __________________

01-04-2004, 00:05	#30
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	hehe If we go writing we should monitor a sudden drop in research time if it can not be related to city growth etc. Other issues for the longer run are lack of luxes atm and how to deal with our "friendly" neighbours. Both call for further exploration imo. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!