Hattrick Quick Question and Answer Thread - Page 112

akots · 23-12-2011, 23:19

Did anybody ever tried training Defesive Positions? I'm contemplating taking a bunch of passable or even inadequate defenders and train them to solid-excellent in friendlies/CDZ cup only. Just specifically how much slower it is?

Shabbaman · 24-12-2011, 10:58

Meh. I am under the impression all "new" training forms like defensive positioning or wing attack are weaker than the "old" training forms. They are all adapted for the increased number of players (so 5 def plus 5 IM's vs 5 IM's plus 3 forwards), but in addition seem to be weaker. That's from what I recall from the numbers I've seen: I've looked into switching from training wingers to training wing attack, but as I am never going to play with 3 forwards it seemed like a wasted opportunity.

akots · 25-12-2011, 02:11

Of course, it is weaker than normal training. The main problem I have with these defensive positions is that my core of midfielders and defenders are not trainable and the league/cup games thus will be wasted for training. I'm just quite desperate about making money and this seems like less hassle and still reasonable profit. I know, best way to make money is to just spend some time in the market and there is really no need to train anything.

I also thought about training defending in solid/excellent keepers instead of defenders due to the question on defending with keepers as discussed here previously. After carefully looking into this, it seems that there is no way to make money with it. Mostly, people just don't care. I guess, performance increase is very marginal, keepers have high salaries, and this defensive position training is quite slow. It might be actually possible to lose money with it.

BCLG100 · 18-03-2012, 19:36

Anyone got/use a decent site for working out stadium expansion? I swear foxtrick used to have one but it doesn't seem to show up for me anymore.

Mistfit · 20-03-2012, 16:31

http://nrgjack.altervista.org/eco.ph...6&r=4349&v=700

This one seems to work pretty well. If you have not updated your foxtrick in the last couple of weeks you will have lost most of your tools. Go and get the lastest release and these will come back.

BCLG100 · 21-03-2012, 23:52

Cheers, I think it was a combination of that and I updated firefox.

BCLG100 · 10-05-2012, 23:59

I'm sure this will have been asked and answered but I'm a bit lazy.

If training PM with 3IM's set and 2 wingers, the wingers get 50% PM training correct? If i have the same 2 wingers playing in both friendly/cup and league games can that be cumulative to 100% or is 50% the maximum they are allowed for the week?

Alternatively, if I then set them to play in IM for the friendly can they be then bumped up to 100%?

Mistfit · 11-05-2012, 02:43

Play a guy at wing both games and he will get 50% PM training

Play a guy at wing one game and PM the other he will get 100% PM training

Play a guy for 45 min at wing and 45 min at PM and he will get approx. 75% training for the week.

Basically they will get the training from the "best" spot they played in for the week. (90 min max)

BCLG100 · 12-05-2012, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistfit

Play a guy at wing both games and he will get 50% PM training

Play a guy at wing one game and PM the other he will get 100% PM training

Play a guy for 45 min at wing and 45 min at PM and he will get approx. 75% training for the week.

Basically they will get the training from the "best" spot they played in for the week. (90 min max)

After so long playing I should really know this stuff but thank you!

barbu1977 · 12-05-2012, 19:39

This is why I don't train anything with 50% at some positions.

23-12-2011, 23:19	#1111
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	Did anybody ever tried training Defesive Positions? I'm contemplating taking a bunch of passable or even inadequate defenders and train them to solid-excellent in friendlies/CDZ cup only. Just specifically how much slower it is? __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

24-12-2011, 10:58	#1112
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,493	Meh. I am under the impression all "new" training forms like defensive positioning or wing attack are weaker than the "old" training forms. They are all adapted for the increased number of players (so 5 def plus 5 IM's vs 5 IM's plus 3 forwards), but in addition seem to be weaker. That's from what I recall from the numbers I've seen: I've looked into switching from training wingers to training wing attack, but as I am never going to play with 3 forwards it seemed like a wasted opportunity. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

25-12-2011, 02:11	#1113
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	Of course, it is weaker than normal training. The main problem I have with these defensive positions is that my core of midfielders and defenders are not trainable and the league/cup games thus will be wasted for training. I'm just quite desperate about making money and this seems like less hassle and still reasonable profit. I know, best way to make money is to just spend some time in the market and there is really no need to train anything. I also thought about training defending in solid/excellent keepers instead of defenders due to the question on defending with keepers as discussed here previously. After carefully looking into this, it seems that there is no way to make money with it. Mostly, people just don't care. I guess, performance increase is very marginal, keepers have high salaries, and this defensive position training is quite slow. It might be actually possible to lose money with it. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

18-03-2012, 19:36	#1114
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	Anyone got/use a decent site for working out stadium expansion? I swear foxtrick used to have one but it doesn't seem to show up for me anymore. __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

20-03-2012, 16:31	#1115
Mistfit King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: idunno. Posts: 2,428	http://nrgjack.altervista.org/eco.ph...6&r=4349&v=700 This one seems to work pretty well. If you have not updated your foxtrick in the last couple of weeks you will have lost most of your tools. Go and get the lastest release and these will come back. __________________ Stumbling from pillar to post...

21-03-2012, 23:52	#1116
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	Cheers, I think it was a combination of that and I updated firefox. __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

10-05-2012, 23:59	#1117
BCLG100 Deity Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lahndan Posts: 6,220	I'm sure this will have been asked and answered but I'm a bit lazy. If training PM with 3IM's set and 2 wingers, the wingers get 50% PM training correct? If i have the same 2 wingers playing in both friendly/cup and league games can that be cumulative to 100% or is 50% the maximum they are allowed for the week? Alternatively, if I then set them to play in IM for the friendly can they be then bumped up to 100%? __________________ the sooner you fall behind, the more time you\'ll have to catch up! CDZ Cup Champion!!!

11-05-2012, 02:43	#1118
Mistfit King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: idunno. Posts: 2,428	Play a guy at wing both games and he will get 50% PM training Play a guy at wing one game and PM the other he will get 100% PM training Play a guy for 45 min at wing and 45 min at PM and he will get approx. 75% training for the week. Basically they will get the training from the "best" spot they played in for the week. (90 min max) __________________ Stumbling from pillar to post...

12-05-2012, 19:39	#1120
barbu1977 Emperor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Blame Canada!. Posts: 3,501	This is why I don't train anything with 50% at some positions. __________________ Postcount = Postcount + 1; //Postcount++