Would you take part in Civ4's beta test ? - Page 2

yndy · 20-10-2004, 05:41

I applied for betatesting on C3C but of course they never selected me. Why would they get a guy living in Romania? I'd do the same on C4 but I bet the results would be the same.

Hygro · 20-10-2004, 07:27

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There were quite a few well known people involved. Trip was one iirc. Warpstorm too. Even Anarres made it I think.

And me and Matrix and many others we know from around the forums.

Yes, I'd love to test again. Testing was cooler than the final product, even if the final product was better.

Socrates · 20-10-2004, 10:54

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Why would they get a guy living in Romania?

Because you may be the best Romanian Civ player in the world, so they'd be afraid of having such a well-educated guy on board, while they could just give a ticket to a 15-year old American guy whose only ambition is to play the game before its release. You know, they'd prefer shipping the game without knowing its flaws, at least they could sleep well then...

Darkness · 20-10-2004, 12:02

Nah, I'll probably wait until it's released. I have very little time for playing civ as it is, so spending that little time testing an even more buggy game, wile any suggestions I might have will probably be ignored, is not very appealing to me

yndy · 21-10-2004, 15:00

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quote:Originally posted by yndy

Why would they get a guy living in Romania?

Because you may be the best Romanian Civ player in the world, so they'd be afraid of having such a well-educated guy on board, while they could just give a ticket to a 15-year old American guy whose only ambition is to play the game before its release. You know, they'd prefer shipping the game without knowing its flaws, at least they could sleep well then...

Col.Tarleton · 28-10-2004, 11:38

Firaxis is a business and as such they're in it for the dosh.There is no way I'd participate in unpaid work after the way they treated Sullla.

Matrix · 28-10-2004, 12:23

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Firaxis is a business and as such they're in it for the dosh.

Well, whaddayaknow: a British socialist!

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There is no way I'd participate in unpaid work after the way they treated Sullla.

Could you please update me?

Socrates · 28-10-2004, 12:37

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Could you please update me?

Sure.

Sullla is a RBCiv member who spent a lot of time playing RBCiv Epics and writing good spoilers about them. To see them, just follow my link and you'll be able to arrive at his site. He was heavily engaged in the C3C beta testing, and we can probably thank him because C3C would perhaps have been worse otherwise. Sullla is a nice folk, and is fond of Civ3 ; so he wrote a lot about C3C's new features AND his beta testing story. He put the whole on his site, but had to delete the part about the beta testing because Firaxis and all thought it was against the rules. So he did (but because I was following it, I was able to read the whole, and it was really interesting, and it didn't show Firaxis in a worse way than what they showed with the patching process...). That's the last time he updated his site, and soon afterwards no one heard of him... until recently when he wrote about "why C3C went wrong", on which I more or so agree with him.

anarres · 28-10-2004, 12:47

Sulla was a little naughty and talked about the beta testing on his website, which was against the NDA he signed.

Firaxis (or was it Breakaway or Atari?) demanded he take it down, and he got pissed off.

FWIW I agree they treated him badly, but he clearly broke the NDA, and he must have known he was breaking it. The NDA was a document that had to be hand-signed before anyone could join the test, and it was very comprehensive.

Col.Tarleton · 28-10-2004, 12:49

Well said,Krys,in fact Firaxis hinted that they might sue him if he didn't delete the section on beta testing from his site.Some tossers from CFC also turned on him.He has dissapeared from the civ world and I can hardly blame him.
You'd think that Firaxis was doing people a favour by letting them beta test instead of the other way round.
Having enthusiastic free labour must have saved them a fortune,the ungratefull bastards.

View Poll Results: Would you take part in Civ4's beta test ?
Yes in any case, add me pleeeaaase !	23	69.70%
Only if the preview looks promising.	1	3.03%
Only if the preview looks bad.	2	6.06%
No, I'll patiently wait until the release.	6	18.18%
No, I don't care about Civ4. Definitively.	0	0%
Don't know yet, I'll see later.	1	3.03%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

20-10-2004, 05:41	#11
yndy Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania. Posts: 895	I applied for betatesting on C3C but of course they never selected me. Why would they get a guy living in Romania? I'd do the same on C4 but I bet the results would be the same. __________________ The one and only

20-10-2004, 12:02	#14
Darkness Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 4,169	Nah, I'll probably wait until it's released. I have very little time for playing civ as it is, so spending that little time testing an even more buggy game, wile any suggestions I might have will probably be ignored, is not very appealing to me __________________ "Death is lighter than a feather, but duty is heavier than a mountain..." - The Eye of the World

28-10-2004, 11:38	#16
Col.Tarleton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent,UK. Posts: 298	Firaxis is a business and as such they're in it for the dosh.There is no way I'd participate in unpaid work after the way they treated Sullla. __________________ Basil!!!!!

28-10-2004, 12:47	#19
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	Sulla was a little naughty and talked about the beta testing on his website, which was against the NDA he signed. Firaxis (or was it Breakaway or Atari?) demanded he take it down, and he got pissed off. FWIW I agree they treated him badly, but he clearly broke the NDA, and he must have known he was breaking it. The NDA was a document that had to be hand-signed before anyone could join the test, and it was very comprehensive. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

28-10-2004, 12:49	#20
Col.Tarleton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent,UK. Posts: 298	Well said,Krys,in fact Firaxis hinted that they might sue him if he didn't delete the section on beta testing from his site.Some tossers from CFC also turned on him.He has dissapeared from the civ world and I can hardly blame him. You'd think that Firaxis was doing people a favour by letting them beta test instead of the other way round. Having enthusiastic free labour must have saved them a fortune,the ungratefull bastards. __________________ Basil!!!!!