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Old 16-11-2010, 15:26   #21
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Wow, Ultimate ICS !!
Spaceship victory before 230 turns.

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Old 16-11-2010, 16:44   #22
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This isn't ICS. This DPHCP (Densely Packed Hexagon City Placement).

This kills MP and GOTM imho. Firaxis did not even bother to set a minimum city distance!
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Old 16-11-2010, 17:24   #23
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Firaxis did not even bother to set a minimum city distance!
They did, the picture is from a mod without minimum city distance.
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Old 16-11-2010, 17:25   #24
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My god, it's full of cities...
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Old 16-11-2010, 17:45   #25
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Good fun don't you think. Wonder what level that was done on btw, couldn't exactly see that in the RBCiv thread.

Spaceship before 230 is pretty fast imo even on lower levels.

Sulla posted that someone on CFC managed to research the entire tech tree in 200 turns on deity level. Curious to read that.
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Old 16-11-2010, 22:23   #26
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I don't see anything wrong with ICS personally.
I do. It doesn't value the geography at all, and I think it's a nice and important part of such a game. Here you just invade the tundra and that's fine. Plus it becomes a no-brainer, where is the strategy there ? Might as well play Tic-Tac-Toe. Feels weird to me, I never thought about ICS before reading about it online.

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then I'll just wait for Civ6 when Sid, Soren, Sulla and PP will design the game, with Mistfit doing the graphics
The triple S. And PP. And Mistfit.

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But from what I've read from Sullla so far, I can't escape the notion that he has some kind of bone to pick with either the game or the designers. The tone and trend of his posts just don't feel like he's really got an entirely open mind about Civ V... I may be wrong though...
I feel that a little as well. But he has valid points (at least from what I read). And he took the time to play those games and write reports to make his points, so it's not just ranting.

@ Rik : Beat you to that pic.
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Old 16-11-2010, 23:00   #27
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Invading the tundra just doesn't work. Early on the city tile gives 2 food, 2 hammers and 1 gold. You can't get a city to size 4 without food bonuses, and on tundra this will get difficult. So you need multiple maritime CS, but if you can pull that off you are already winning. ICS could be a way to win, but it's not guaranteed you get there.
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Old 16-11-2010, 23:06   #28
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Yes, basically you need maritime city states to provide you with food, but that's often the case, and quite early on in the game. Otherwise, change "tundra" to "whatever is a bit better but still not great".

BTW, someone has to create a huge (and pink) "SPAM CITIES" smiley ; that could be handy.
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You make it sound too easy. You need 500 gold to pull it off.
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That is from what I've read. Gold seems aplenty in Civ5 btw. Sell your resources. And don't forget the arcade-style missions triggered by the city states.
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