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Old 02-04-2003, 09:13   #21
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I'd love to, but I'd better start in an Emperor SG. Don't have too much time on hand anyways.
Excellent!

Well, I mean sorry you cant play, but this leaves someone we know (and trust) to make us a map and make sure all starts are equal, or at least we aint stuck in the desert...

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Old 02-04-2003, 09:14   #22
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1) Depends on traits, but I agree Industrious is almost essential to make life easier. Religious is good too, but I think Industrious with a strong UU is better than Industrious and any other second trait. Egypt's UU is far too early on Deity for my tastes, and it requires nerves of steel and often a nice dollop of luck to make good use of it. I would prefer a civ with a Middle Age UU like the Chinese or the Ottomans. Persia can be made to work at a stretch, but you have to make do with a slow UU and a GA that is several techs too early.

2 - 6) Anything but Archipelago will be fine, island maps are a different type of game to most, generally involving long build-up periods to go and capture the nearest island.

7) I think deciding a victory type to go for will allow more focus on the game and where it is going. There is the opportunity for builder styles and warmonger styles to clash, and deciding the tone of the game now will help avoid that. I would be happy going for any victory type, but personally favour a military victory (Domination or Conquest).

20 turns at first then 10 sounds fine.
All good stuff here, this and other posts, I would definately lean towards China, I been playing them a lot recently and their UU absolutely rocks.

As for map type, anyone got any real objections to WildFire's list?

Victory Type, hmm, lets go through them...
1) Culture - Yuck... Is this fun? Is it feasible on Deity?
2) Diplomatic - Work up all the way to the Fission and then build the UN? We would have to be too nice...
3) Space Race - As 2) but with the option of a bit of violence, but the AI would outproduce us surely.
4) and 5) Conquest and Domination. Now you're talking, hello Hamurabi, check out the Size o' my tanks is the only thing I wanna say to this. Definately gets my vote...
6) Histograph - Against Deity AI? Aint gonna happen...

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Old 02-04-2003, 10:37   #23
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meli: I have a deity histograph vic under my belt.....

OK; I held 1 size 1 town short of conquest
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Old 02-04-2003, 11:12   #24
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I'll go with any vic type but being a hardheaded warmonger I prefer domination or conquest

On the civ suggestion by Anarres: I prefer otto's above china. I like china but I'm playing them a lot lately (tournie iirc and of course my game against Kemal) On the other hand, I'm quite experienced in them by now!

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Choice of civs are for wimps - go random!
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Old 02-04-2003, 15:06   #26
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Come on Col more details/reasons please....

And although we value your naked wit and turn of phrase, could we have some of your wisdom too?

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Old 03-04-2003, 05:36   #27
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I am interested in this SG
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Old 03-04-2003, 22:49   #28
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I've always liked the iris - a killer UU which allows you to remove one or two Ai civs early and establish a good position. I have reached winning positions on deity using the iris so maybe I'd like to use a different civ - one of the new ones? Ind + commercial anyone?
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He Meli, when is this thing gonna start??? I wanna play!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-04-2003, 23:05   #30
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Well...

I want concrete approval from all involved as to

A) Who will play.
B) What Civ we take and
C) What goal we are after

Votes please...

At the moment I think it is...
A) Col, Propain, anarres, CivGeneral, Lt Killer, Ekletikos, Aggie and Wildfire444. Maybe too many? How about 2 games?
Who wants to host the other one?
B) Otto's, China or Iroquois?
C) Conquest is all I wanna see....

Come on post!

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