C3C 1.15 BETA ;)

[ProPain]

quote:Originally posted by col

It wasnt my explanation. I should have said - thats Soren's explanation about how corruption is meant to work.

I think we will all need to focus much more on the OCN and we will have to really think about the effects of building one more city.

Now here's an interesting issue. I tested a game with KR when I was online with ana&sky. We were wondering if a new city affects corruption for cities closer to the real capital.

Conclusion: it doesn't.

I'm not exactly sure what will happen when you exceed OCN.I gather a city built after reaching OCN will have higher corruption than this same city built before OCN would have.

But does it affect cities closer to the real palace?

If yes:
OCN is a factor to seriously take into consideration. It will affect corruption in your RP and FP core and thus your main production.

If no:
OCN is a minor issue to contend with for you rp core. Just make sure you dont built more cities in this core.
OCN in regard to your FP is slightly more complicated especially when you FP is far away from your RP and new cities will likely increase rank for your FP cities.

From the Col/Sorens post and the KingReno experiment I think the last option is true.

If this last option is true that would favor building the FP and RP relatively close and you can build 'old school' mega empires that are totally corrupt except for your core.

[col]

My view is that once you reach OCN you really dont want to build any cities near your palace. In fact it may well pay to thin out a bit if you've got a dense build.


Palace jumping would seem to be a thing of the past except in certain desparate situations eg starting on a tiny island. Since your first cities will have high ranks, you dont want to give them distance corruption - and your new core will have rank corruption if you move your palace.

I'm now operating on 1.15.

[ProPain]

quote:Originally posted by col

My view is that once you reach OCN you really dont want to build any cities near your palace. In fact it may well pay to thin out a bit if you've got a dense build.

Seems we agree on this.

quote:Originally posted by col

Palace jumping would seem to be a thing of the past except in certain desparate situations eg starting on a tiny island. Since your first cities will have high ranks, you dont want to give them distance corruption - and your new core will have rank corruption if you move your palace.

Afaik rank was recalculated when you jump palace in ptw/vanilla civ and I suspect that still to be so. Otherwise palace jumping was quite useless in the old days too, as rank has always been calculated from the palace. RCP was only usefull around the RP and not the FP because of that. Or have I always totally misunderstood this

It would be interesting to see how the equal distanced cities problem is solved for a palace jump now. For new cities it seems rank for equidistant cities is determined by founding date, so hopefully thats how it will work for a palace jump too.

[col]

No - its me that's wrong. I still tend to think of rank as fixed rather than something that gets recalculated - which isnt the case.

[conmcb25]

col

My aplogizes, Im new at CDZ and dont know everyone. Are you a programmer for Conquests?

Thanks

[col]

Hehe - no. Just a ahem humble teacher.

I'm one of the mods at CFC so I have access to information posted there by Soren and Jesse who are Firaxians.

[Beam]

quote:Originally posted by col

Hehe - no. Just a ahem humble teacher.

I'm one of the mods at CFC so I have access to information posted there by Soren and Jesse who are Firaxians.

Take care with col conmcb25, he sometimes tends to extend those modpowers to CDZ threatening to deny information and might even do so in pbem's

[col]

Beam, dont go misleading the newbies. I'm just a pussy cat.

[Melifluous]

Melifluous

[ProPain]

Has that 1.15 been seen lying around somewhere????