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Old 31-08-2019, 17:35   #31
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Beorn has tried to sell the world map to me for 200 gold. Sami already bought it from him for 150, so I bought it from Sami for the same price. Let's just consider it humanitarian aid.

Meanwhile Beorn has attacked Jeke and took one city already. Would've been good news, if I had enough troops to attack Beorn in the back. But I don't. I'm sure it won't take long before Jeke is out.
However, I changed Beorn's Quebec to a monarchy! He used counter espionage on me, but that ended exactly this turn. My spy already went to the most eastern city on the continent and waited exact one turn to have a higher chance of success. Perfect timing.

And admittedly, I actually wanted to steal a tech. But then I saw I'd lose most of my espionage points for aestetics which would only cost me a few turns to research anyway. So then I went through the list of options, saw this and realised a far bigger impact would be to disrupt his representation exploitation. (I.e. his huge amount of specialised citizens giving three extra science points each.)
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Old 03-09-2019, 13:13   #32
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Check the GNP! That forced switch to monarchy has quite a profound effect on Beorn's economy. Jeke also had quite a decent income, by the way.
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Old 04-09-2019, 21:10   #33
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Oh, wow. That is a move I would have probably never even thought about.
But well, that might be why I am out of the game...
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Old 12-09-2019, 23:45   #34
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And then Beorn asked "Ready to dance?"



He built a fortress right next to Feariburg. I then decided to attack him, because he probably wouldn't have been so stupid to put all his units in the city. Plus I could actually use the city attack bonus, annulling the defense advantage of the fortress.

But his cannons are simply out of my league. I did some damage, meaning half his stack was destroyed. But my whole stack is gone.

I only just got guilds, thus knights, and as soon as I've upgraded enough units and finished building the statue of Zeus, which is in two turns from now, I'll revolt to get slavery and whip knights like hell. For whatever it's worth.

Killer pretends he stays out of the battle, but is giving me his units. Cool, but...he still has open borders. Just just when I was done and logging out, I saw:





Jeke intends to build a city on a lonely corner of his island.
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Old 20-09-2019, 01:14   #35
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Jeke is gone and ProPain rejected the offer of fighting Sami in exchange for not being invaded by Beorn. So it's a full scale world war now: everyone but Sami against Beorn. Sami did stop trading with Beorn and trades with me now, and Beorn applauded me for the embargo, saying he now has unhealthy cities. The Statue of Zeus might do some bad stuff as well.

But all in all, it's a completely futile endeavour. Beorn will have rifling in a few turns and there is still no way for me to stop him. Again, his cannons are simply too strong.

I offered Killer my city of Beca and expected Beorn to declare war on Killer subsequently. However, I didn't expect Beca would keep the tiles right next to the city in it's cultural borders, and Beorn decided to take advantage of that and move towards Goon. Meanwhile I am still building up troops and was actually able to knock out a few troops, but not much.



Here you can see what I'm up against now:


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Old 02-10-2019, 00:16   #36
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Strastad is about to be taken.

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Old 06-10-2019, 19:28   #37
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What screen resolution and settings did you use for your screenshots? I keep cropping with win+shift+s screenshots, but I like yours better.

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It's random. And yea, later on I realised we used to let other people make the map. We'll see how this unfolds.

Those two have been very curt in their replies. I suspect collaboration.
How foreshadowing.
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So here is our continent. Hmm, who to attack first? I'd like to eliminate jakeri, because he's not been playing his turns regularly and thus slowing down the game.

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You might notice the wounded archer in my land. There was a barbarian uprise: five axemen. But I fended them off without casualties.
And to insinuate that french axes are barbarians has me highly offended.
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Yikes, look at Beorn!
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What could possibly go wrong!
Nothing could go wrong. Nothing, I assure you.
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Anyway, here are the essential screenshots. I built some Rathäuser already. Now I'm building castles, as you can see, with +225% production (25% from forge, 100% from stone, 100% from protective trait).
That explains the castles everywhere. I thought it was WAY overkill but I get it, they were dirt cheap.
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By the way, Jeke told me yesterday that he suspects Beorn of planning an attack against him.
How could I not! Look at all that silk!
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The Statue of Zeus might do some bad stuff as well.

But all in all, it's a completely futile endeavour. Beorn will have rifling in a few turns and there is still no way for me to stop him. Again, his cannons are simply too strong.
SoZ did hurt me pretty bad, with 8-9 in large cities.

Had I not botched the first 2 offensives on Goon/Strastad, I'd have had 4 more turns of GA, switched back to representation and been halfway to Assembly Line by now for factories and infantry.

Great game, solid resistance in the end . The geopolitics of who attacks what and when really makes this a whole other beast. I did exploit rep to the fullest, but without it, I'd have been a poorer Mali. Had Killer taken a stab at me early he might have won it all, but you might have swiped it all from under his feet. Had you taken my mining expansion to the NE earlier, then I wouldn't have attacked you but rather gone for Mongolia and bid my time until

Really exciting, and my hats off to you all, and especially you two.
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Old 06-10-2019, 19:53   #38
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Hey, I wasn't done with my spoiler yet! Please await my reply...

Because here is one final shot of a crumbling Straland. The stack in the bottom left is what is standing right next to Strastad.

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What screen resolution and settings did you use for your screenshots? I keep cropping with win+shift+s screenshots, but I like yours better.
I switched to windowed screen and then changed the resolution to 1024x768 or 1280x800. It's a bit of a hassle...

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That explains the castles everywhere. I thought it was WAY overkill but I get it, they were dirt cheap.
Not overkill. A castle also gives an extra trade route and +25% espionage, so it was definitely worth it!

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Had I not botched the first 2 offensives on Goon/Strastad, I'd have had 4 more turns of GA, switched back to representation and been halfway to Assembly Line by now for factories and infantry.
I'm not too sure if you could've gotten there that much faster really. You were stretching it a bit too thin perhaps. And yes, I was expecting Infantry wouldn't take too long.

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Great game, solid resistance in the end . The geopolitics of who attacks what and when really makes this a whole other beast. I did exploit rep to the fullest, but without it, I'd have been a poorer Mali. Had Killer taken a stab at me early he might have won it all, but you might have swiped it all from under his feet. Had you taken my mining expansion to the NE earlier, then I wouldn't have attacked you but rather gone for Mongolia and bid my time until

Really exciting, and my hats off to you all, and especially you two.
Yep, good game. I learned something entirely new when I saw you skyrocketing in GNP. As in how useful the representation civic can be. It's not an exploit. But it does make the pyramids much more powerful!
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At first, Pyramids were my plan to cope with having no luxuries. Had it failed, I'd have been in trouble and probably horse-rushed killer.

Pushing rep to the limit came second. It became especially good since I had 26 food from 5 tiles (+16) and 10 forests in the capital. It was a perfect storm: fishes and pigs for a caste of 8 scientists at size 13, chop GLib, civics for GS points and an extra free specialist. Without all of this lining up, or with resistance, it would have been a lot less impressive.

I tried it a few times in single player and the most I got was 5 + GLib. Really good but not THIS good.
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