Mistfit's Marauders (hattrick style) - Page 2

akots · 31-05-2005, 18:15

First 4 teams in your group seem to be rather decent and well maintained. You can try to finish 5th or even 4th this season.

It also seems that your squad does not favor any particular training type. It is a decent squad with good midfielders. Can go then may be with keeper training, just buy a solid coach and 2 trainees, as Kemal said? And fire junk players while keeping the rest and trying to arrange them with the help of HO.

Might be indeed try to sell Terrance Tapia (66250606). He might go for some 40K and he is not very good for team spirit being controversial. And indeed some stamina training for a starting couple of weeks seems reasonable.

Mistfit · 31-05-2005, 18:34

I've not figured out yet where to fire people at yet???

Or for that matter where to hire new coaches as they don't seem to be on the transfer wire yet

Edit:
Ok I found where to get the new coach. Do I want Defensive or offensive mined or neither?

How do I sell someone?

Edit:
Never mind I found how to sell 'em. How do I just fire them though?

Edit (again)
I fired my first guy! Now I can't again for 12 hours. I'm also searching for a new coach. and made some bids on a couple of Goal Tending trainees. Now I'm off and running. I set training at 90% to stamina. Sound right? oh yeah I took a friendly for tomorrow as well.

Dell19 · 31-05-2005, 20:32

100% training intensity is the way forward.

The coach preference doesn't really matter although it may be vaguely beneficial to get an attack minded coach or the neutral coach.

Mistfit · 31-05-2005, 20:37

oops to late

I got antsy and hire a defensive mided coach... oh well

Per Kanstrup (11578971)
40 years, wretched form, healthy
A solid trainer who is defensive minded
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has excellent experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: Danmark
Total Skill Index (TSI): 0
Wage: 600 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Mistfit's_Marauders
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy

Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: wretched
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

Dell19 · 31-05-2005, 20:51

A defensive coach has its benefits in that it'll boost your defence by a bit although at the cost to attack. The arguement against a defensive coach is that attack is slightly more important than defence so it makes sense to boost the more important area however there is an argument for getting a coach that favours the area that you train so the bonus increases.

Mistfit · 31-05-2005, 21:08

I should just be more patient. My thought process was that if I'm going to be training Goaltending I figured that was a defensive position. oh well on to bigger and better things.

Kemal · 31-05-2005, 22:22

I had a defensive coach as well (still have actually) when I trained my keepers... the advantage is that you'll get more of a boost from him because your defense stats will be higher than your attack, and the coach adds a percentage to your already existing ratings.

However, as Dell said, defense won't win you games, and if you are likely to win the midfield battle, attack becomes more important than defense for sure. But the coach really only adds a little, so don't sweat on it i'd say.

Mistfit · 31-05-2005, 22:26

Do you guys trust utilities like HO! to come up with the best possible rotation for your team?

Also if you use that utility it will tell you put this guy in @ Center but it does not tell you to put him on attacking. Is this just preference or did I miss somthing in the utility

akots · 31-05-2005, 23:20

The utility (lineup) in HO is a rather complicated thing to use. First, you have to select the lineup like 4-4-2 and assign all your players for normal. It is a good idea to play 4-4-2 in the first league matches and try 3-5-2 in the firendlies so that you can get your experience with 3-5-2 to excellent as well. Then, look at the players folder and note which are the optimal positions for your players, like "winger offensive" or "Wingback defensive". Then, change the offensive/defensive flags in the lineup and assign the players by utility again. Note that sometimes, with a new version, HO tends to first assign midfielders and a mifield sub and then goes to other positions. So you may end up with a forward assigned to midfield sub and some crappy player assigned to forward position.

But HO is rather trustworthy in most cases imho. Just take your time playing with it.

For now, don't buy anything for first 2 weeks and try to make yourself familiar with transfer market and keeper trainees. You can get a really good bargain with passable 19-year olds imho, may be even less than 70K each. Just need some time to browse closer to deadlines. It is time-consuming and tedious task.

Also, keeper training is a long-term committment and you need to stay out of major debt. And hire some specialists as soon as you feel to.

Dell19 · 31-05-2005, 23:26

I find Hattrick Ratings to be reasonably accurate although it does need adjusting every so often and it does not take into account the repositioning cost so it will often pick by best striker for the winger slot which seems to be incorrect.

Shouldn't he be playing 3-5-2 as a goalkeeper trainer? I would recommend doing what Kemal and I have already suggested of picking up a cheap IM with lowish stamina and then training stamina for a couple of weeks because you already have an IM that needs stamina and with 3 you can play 3-5-2 which is marginally the best formation.

Generally wing backs should always be played defensively and generally wingers are best played offensively because attack equals goals. However wing towards middle is a nice option when MOTSing. If an IM has high passing then he could be played offensively and if they have defence then playing them defensively could be beneficial.

31-05-2005, 18:15	#11
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	First 4 teams in your group seem to be rather decent and well maintained. You can try to finish 5th or even 4th this season. It also seems that your squad does not favor any particular training type. It is a decent squad with good midfielders. Can go then may be with keeper training, just buy a solid coach and 2 trainees, as Kemal said? And fire junk players while keeping the rest and trying to arrange them with the help of HO. Might be indeed try to sell Terrance Tapia (66250606). He might go for some 40K and he is not very good for team spirit being controversial. And indeed some stamina training for a starting couple of weeks seems reasonable. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

31-05-2005, 18:34	#12
Mistfit King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: idunno. Posts: 2,428	I've not figured out yet where to fire people at yet??? Or for that matter where to hire new coaches as they don't seem to be on the transfer wire yet Edit: Ok I found where to get the new coach. Do I want Defensive or offensive mined or neither? How do I sell someone? Edit: Never mind I found how to sell 'em. How do I just fire them though? Edit (again) I fired my first guy! Now I can't again for 12 hours. I'm also searching for a new coach. and made some bids on a couple of Goal Tending trainees. Now I'm off and running. I set training at 90% to stamina. Sound right? oh yeah I took a friendly for tomorrow as well. __________________ Stumbling from pillar to post...

31-05-2005, 20:37	#14
Mistfit King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: idunno. Posts: 2,428	oops to late I got antsy and hire a defensive mided coach... oh well Per Kanstrup (11578971) 40 years, wretched form, healthy A solid trainer who is defensive minded A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and dishonest. Has excellent experience and poor leadership abilities. Nationality: Danmark Total Skill Index (TSI): 0 Wage: 600 US$/week including 20% Bonus Owner: Mistfit's_Marauders Warnings: 0 Injuries: Healthy Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: wretched Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched __________________ Stumbling from pillar to post...

31-05-2005, 21:08	#16
Mistfit King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: idunno. Posts: 2,428	I should just be more patient. My thought process was that if I'm going to be training Goaltending I figured that was a defensive position. oh well on to bigger and better things. __________________ Stumbling from pillar to post...

31-05-2005, 22:22	#17
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	I had a defensive coach as well (still have actually) when I trained my keepers... the advantage is that you'll get more of a boost from him because your defense stats will be higher than your attack, and the coach adds a percentage to your already existing ratings. However, as Dell said, defense won't win you games, and if you are likely to win the midfield battle, attack becomes more important than defense for sure. But the coach really only adds a little, so don't sweat on it i'd say. __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

31-05-2005, 20:32	#13
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	100% training intensity is the way forward. The coach preference doesn't really matter although it may be vaguely beneficial to get an attack minded coach or the neutral coach.

31-05-2005, 20:51	#15
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	A defensive coach has its benefits in that it'll boost your defence by a bit although at the cost to attack. The arguement against a defensive coach is that attack is slightly more important than defence so it makes sense to boost the more important area however there is an argument for getting a coach that favours the area that you train so the bonus increases.

31-05-2005, 22:26	#18
Mistfit King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: idunno. Posts: 2,428	Do you guys trust utilities like HO! to come up with the best possible rotation for your team? Also if you use that utility it will tell you put this guy in @ Center but it does not tell you to put him on attacking. Is this just preference or did I miss somthing in the utility __________________ Stumbling from pillar to post...

31-05-2005, 23:20	#19
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	The utility (lineup) in HO is a rather complicated thing to use. First, you have to select the lineup like 4-4-2 and assign all your players for normal. It is a good idea to play 4-4-2 in the first league matches and try 3-5-2 in the firendlies so that you can get your experience with 3-5-2 to excellent as well. Then, look at the players folder and note which are the optimal positions for your players, like "winger offensive" or "Wingback defensive". Then, change the offensive/defensive flags in the lineup and assign the players by utility again. Note that sometimes, with a new version, HO tends to first assign midfielders and a mifield sub and then goes to other positions. So you may end up with a forward assigned to midfield sub and some crappy player assigned to forward position. But HO is rather trustworthy in most cases imho. Just take your time playing with it. For now, don't buy anything for first 2 weeks and try to make yourself familiar with transfer market and keeper trainees. You can get a really good bargain with passable 19-year olds imho, may be even less than 70K each. Just need some time to browse closer to deadlines. It is time-consuming and tedious task. Also, keeper training is a long-term committment and you need to stay out of major debt. And hire some specialists as soon as you feel to. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

31-05-2005, 23:26	#20
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	I find Hattrick Ratings to be reasonably accurate although it does need adjusting every so often and it does not take into account the repositioning cost so it will often pick by best striker for the winger slot which seems to be incorrect. Shouldn't he be playing 3-5-2 as a goalkeeper trainer? I would recommend doing what Kemal and I have already suggested of picking up a cheap IM with lowish stamina and then training stamina for a couple of weeks because you already have an IM that needs stamina and with 3 you can play 3-5-2 which is marginally the best formation. Generally wing backs should always be played defensively and generally wingers are best played offensively because attack equals goals. However wing towards middle is a nice option when MOTSing. If an IM has high passing then he could be played offensively and if they have defence then playing them defensively could be beneficial.