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Old 03-03-2004, 21:10   #1
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I am Byzantines, KR is Carthage. Here is my empire at turn 13:


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My first settler will head NW to make a 4 turn settler factory. I am going min on writing so I will have to find civs to buy Pottery from...

21: Build my first settler.

32: Finally a currach makes it to another island (I lost my first), and I meet the Dutch. Oh joy, what great neighbours.

They have pottery but want 197 gold and 6gpt!

I also found my 3rd city this turn, I am expanding quite fast but am at risk from a barb camp 5 tiles away...

40: I've been having really bad luck - 2 out of curragh crossings have failed, and as seafaring that sucks. I still have only met the Dutch and I am don't have Pottery yet.

44: I finally meet my second civ: England.

Pay England 298 for Ceremonial Burial.
Sell the Dutch Ceremonial Burial for Pottery and 80 gold.

51: Research Writing.

Sell Writing to the Dutch for Iron Working, The Wheel and 11 gold.
Sell Writing to the English for Mysticism and 195 gold.
Sell Writing to the Sumerians for Masonry, Warrior Code and 72 gold.

55: Sumeria researches Maths. I sell them Iron Working and the Wheel for Maths and 12 gold.
Sell Maths to the English for 141 gold.

59: My empire:


123.93*KB
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Old 11-03-2004, 23:17   #2
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63: Research Philosophy. Unusually I choose Map Making for my free tech.

65: Found Smyrna.

66: The Dutch demand Map Making, but since they can't reach me I refuse.

71: A brave Curragh has survived 4 turns in the ocean and made it to a far away landmass.

74: Found Heraclea.

Wow, the landmass I found was Kingreno's island!


31.02*KB

Check the diplo!


26.98*KB

Kingreno wants to trade - I get Literature and 50 gold form him for Map Making.

80: Found Trebizond.

80: Research Code of Laws.

87: The English demand CoL - I refuse and they declare war.

89: The Sumerians demand Lit - I refuse and they declare war.

92: Found Sardica.

99: The Dutch land next to my new city - I will have to make peace this turn.


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Luckly I meet France this turn, and I buy Construction for Philosophy, Literature and 379 gold.

Now I make peace with the Dutch, giving Construction in return for HBR and 23 gold.

On inspection I see Kingreno doesn't need techs from me, and since he may know the English I make peace with them giving Construction for Polytheism and 41 gold. Shit, KR doesn't even need Poly...

My WH has dropped from +3 to +1 in all my size 4+ cities, but with some juggling I can get away with 10% lux.

104: I research Republic. I hit anarchy and draw an amazing 4 turns!

I can get Republic and Monarchy from either France or England, I go with Lizze and get both techs and 5gpt. I get Engineering as my free tech.

I make peace with Sumeria giving CoL, then gift 4 ancient techs to get them to the Middle Ages. They get Feudalism as their free tech, which I buy for Monarchy, Engineering and The Republic.

Hehe, I am now Republic, Feudalism and Engineering ahead of Kingreno. I doubt he will have Mono so it looks like I am doing well.
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Old 12-03-2004, 09:05   #3
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quote:104: I research Republic. I hit anarchy and draw an amazing 4 turns!

I can get Republic and Monarchy from either France or England
I dont understand that part : you self researched Republic but France and England already had it ? Did you have monopoly on Republic ?
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Old 12-03-2004, 09:55   #4
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...was thinking the same...
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:29   #5
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:30   #6
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Whoops. I meant I can get Monarchy and Currency! I needed one last Ancient tech...
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On inspection I see Kingreno doesn't need techs from me, and since he may know the English I make peace with them giving Construction for Polytheism and 41 gold. Shit, KR doesn't even need Poly...


He doesn't need those techs because he already has them???
I know you guys are very good players, but that would be a very impressive catch-up as several turns ago he had nothing - according to the diplo screen you posted!

I think I have to practice a bit more before I challenge you guys!

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Old 12-03-2004, 11:07   #8
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Yes, he is that good!

Kingreno managed to find some civs in those turns, and he took full advantage of his broker status.
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Old 31-03-2004, 19:07   #9
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111: I finally meet Germany, I have just India left to meet now and I think I know where they are.

I gift Germany Currency, and they get Engineering as their free tech. Oh well, I was hoping they got Mono.


117: My FP is finished! The idea is to have a very loose build here on my island, and when I get astronomy to take the Dutch homeland as my second core with a Palace rush. Because I will be under the OCN the cities shouldn't be too corrupt.


122: Research Mono. England and the Netherlands already have it, they must have got it this turn. They also both have Invention, so I guess they both researched one each and swapped.

Kingreno has the Great Library, so I have to sell it to everyone straight away.
Sell Mono to France for 37 gpt and 35 gold.
Sell Mono to Germany for 34 gpt and 7 gold.


128: I meet the last civ - India. They don't even have Writing yet! [] I gift them techs up to Republic so they can start earning me money!


133: Research Theology.

The last thing I want to do is to let Kingreno capitalise on the Great Library any more than necessary, so I sell it around to the AI where I can.

Sell to the Dutch for Invention, 11 gpt and 46 gold.
Sell to Germany for 26 gpt and 12 gold.
Sell to France for 4 gpt and 60 gold.

I am at war with England, and I don't think Kingreno has met either India or Sumaria, so I won't gift it to them.


137: I notice that the Dutch have a long sea route to the England/Sumeria islands, when I have Education I will get them in an MA agianst the English to deplete their forces.

138: Pay Sumeria Monotheism for an MA against England.

142: Research Education.

Sell to the Dutch for Gunpowder, 11 gpt, 31 gold and an MA against England.
Sell Education to France for Chivalry and 12 gpt.
Now I gift techs to those missing them, so KR can't sell them on. India and Sumeria are both unknown to KR still, but he will get contact soon...

Finally I sink one of KR's galleys in my lands to trigger my GA, without it I am 10 from Astronomy, now I am 7.


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148: I research Astronomy, 1 turn early from the Uni's I have been building. FUCK! I ended the turn, but forgot to sell it on for Chemistry. Oh well, as long as KR doesn't get it this turn and gift it to everyone I will be fine.


149: Sell Astronomy to France for Chemistry, 33gpt and 50 gold.


150: Sell Astronomy to Germany for 50 gold and 37 gpt.

France has Printing Press, I can't afford it. Instead I sell contact with England for 11 gold and 4 gpt.


151: ARRRRGGGHHH!!!! I lost a pre-build with 350 shields! Since I have only OCN/2 cities the palace is worth shit, and all the wonders just got taken...


153: Research Navigation. I am going to try to get stuff without selling Nav, since I am keep to keep the WM trading to myself.

Sell Theology to Sumeria for WM.
Sell Feudalism to India for WM and 6 gold.
Sell WM to the Dutch for WM and 7 gpt.
Sell WM to the Germans for WM, Gems and 7 gpt.
I get Printing Press from France, but it costs me dear: Spices, Ivory (my only one!), Saltpeter, Iron, Contact with India, WM, RoP and 4 gpt.
Sell Printing Press and contact with the English to Germany and get Wine, 42 gpt and 3 gold.
Sell Printing Press to the Dutch for Dyes, Incense, 12 gpt and 9 gold.

Hmm, I can turn lux down to 0%!

Kingreno (Carthage) is lacking Printing Press and Astronomy, but could possibly have Metallurgy by now (unlikely though, given the cost of techs and the smallness of our empires).

My plan is unfolding very nicely, I have 5 lux's instead of 2, I have Unis almost everwhere, Cathedrals and now Markets being built or recently completed, and +77 gpt at 100% science. Since my GA started I have been #1 in GNP and Mfg goods, but the great news is that I am now #1 in Pop, Literacy and Life Expectancy too!


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Old 31-03-2004, 22:57   #10
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Very well played !
You guys are really stretching this to the limit. Any comments on the map ?
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