Kempro vs anarSky "Clash of the Titans"

[Skyfish]

Following a challenge from "poldermodel players" ProPain and Kemal, Perfid Albion anarres and chauvinistic Skyfish took up the challenge and teamed up in what will hopefully turn out to be an epic PBEM

Here are the map conditions :
Players :
I have decided on player order according to when people usually play turns (Matrix's system) :
- ProPain : Player 1/admin -> Ottomans (Team Kempro)
- Skyfish : Player 2 -> China (Team anarSky)
- Kemal : Player 3 -> Greece (Team Kempro)
- anarres : Player 4 -> Russia (Team anarSky)

Map parameters:
Land form : Pangea
Size : Random
Climate : Wet OR Temperate (NO arid)
Temperature, age, barb level. : All Random

Difficulty :
Deity

No AI civs

Specific requests :
Teammates should be fairly close to each other but with both enough room to expand.
Preferably both facing the other team rather than have one player facing both ennemies
or one facing one with 2 others in the background (do I make any sense ?
The 2 teams should be also separated to allow early unhindered expansion.

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Some points on the rules :

1: Are team members allowed to play each other's turns ?
Yes

2: Should the map be made by the Map Makers ensuring team mates are close to each other?
Yes

3.Will only "team results" be valid ?(i.e preventing possibility of nasty internal backstabbing)
Yes

4.Should there be any AIs ?
In this game we have no AIs : sse the logs of the dicussion below...

5.What's the play order?
A-B-A-B, that is alternating team members.

6. Will contact be allowed before teammates meet?
Yes.

Additional rules I would like introduced are the following :
- Ban of the "far Palace/FP exploit"
- Ban of the "settler creep exploit"
- Ban of the "deficit research exploit" where ONLY a building and a worker gets destroyed per turn even when running huge gpt deficit with 0 gold.

Please react if its a problem and if we need to add antyhing else...
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I will post some chosen extracts of the discussions that occured in an MSM chat concerning the setting up of the game : it got quite heated to say the least

[Kemal]

The KemPro team would like to add the following rule to the set proposed by the anarsky team:

Put a ban on the exploitative feauture of "leader farming" which arises in team games, meaning one player builds cheap units only for his team member to slaughter and get free leaders on. As the impact of leaders in Civ3 is so great, this would massively change the way the game is intented to be played.

As for the other rules you propose, the KemPro team can agree with those. (Or at least this half of the team can).

[anarres]

No leader farming is OK by me. In essence this means we can never be at war with each other - that means no war declarations and no MPP's (although they are useless anyway).

[Skyfish]

quote:that means no war declarations and no MPP's

I know its obvious but just to be absolutely clear the above rule is only applicable for "within a single team", and not between the teams...

Good we're all agreed on rules, lets wait for ProPain to post here as he might have some additions...

Now about we post our starts ? Any objection ?

[anarres]

Here is the spoiler for anarSky:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/to...p?TOPIC_ID=994

Sky, If you want your own then so be it, but I think we would do better to share...

[Skyfish]

Course we will share ! we'll share everything from now on

[anarres]

heh, you have a wife, no?

[Skyfish]

Aha so u wanna share my missus...

[DrAlimentado]

what sky dosen't mention is the sharing of the shitty nappy duty too

[DrAlimentado]

LOL... my post read better with skys original post;

quote:
Two are better than one

hehehehehe...