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Melifluous · 14-12-2003, 13:46

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by ProPain

Waiting on my team, applied last thursday, still nothing.

That's harsh man. I got my team next day.
How long does it say you have to wait?

Maybe lots of people in the Nederlands like football or somink

Melifluous

ProPain · 14-12-2003, 14:07

apparently people who applied 9th of december got teams yesterday. But technically I applied friday (it was 0:30) So I' m guessing I'll have a team tuesday.

When I applied 700 people were wainting, after that the line has grown everyday. 1155 people waiting now

Shabbaman · 14-12-2003, 14:17

I've read on the site that dutch league has gotten a lot more members in the last year.

yndy · 14-12-2003, 19:27

Let’s get this week’s (Day 5 Season 21?) results:

Yndy (aka taki_) Romania VI.578 teamid: 183500
FC Boldesti – Sticla T-veni 2-4

Meliflous England VI.289 teamid: 58408
Meli’s Manglers – The u’s 3 – 1 Congrats!

Shabbaman Nederland VII.397 teamid: 144548
Shabba FC – Jeroen United 4-0

Cruise Nederland VIII.441 teamid: 363029
Karsie – FC Cruise 3-3

ProPain Nederland waiting team

We’ll be five any day now. We need 8 teams to organize a friendly cup. I think we could schedule it in the near future and see if we get the needed number of Civ players by then. If not I’m sure we can find some other guys.

Cruise · 14-12-2003, 22:56

3-3, but i played it calm...
That would have been ok, if i didn't have my top player injured, and if i didn't get a red card.

Last time i PIC-ed i had a bad injury as well. Crappy game

ProPain · 14-12-2003, 23:02

Look at the bright side: You actually have a team and players!!!

Shabbaman · 15-12-2003, 08:10

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by yndy

Shabbaman Nederland VII.397 teamid: 144548
Shabba FC – Jeroen United 52 minutes to kick-off

Make that a 4-0 v.s. the number two of the league. Good times! Bad times: 2 injured, makes a total of 5 in the sick bay...

yndy · 15-12-2003, 09:12

Yeah, injuries are a pain but you have to live with that as well. I see that only Shabba uses the 3-5-2 strategy. Guys, playing with 3 inner mids is one of the most powerful strategies. Unless you have a strong reason not to, I advise you to switch on that just once to see the difference.

I intend to give you some advice on playing and I would also like to share with you the testing that I’m working on so that one could determine:
-> individual star ratings based on player abilities and positioning;
-> team compartment ratings based on player abilities, positioning, tactic, team attitude and orders;
-> chance of win/draw/loss and how those can be maximized with a given squad.

I guess that if we get answers to these things, games would be much easier to tackle and we could make informed decisions. I tried to get some help from the community but it seems that most players do not want to know that because it would spoil their ‘magic’.

Now, I’m thinking in Civ terms, would you want to know the chances of your 3 Knights to kill a stack of 2 fortified muskets on a hill or not? Should you wait for another knight or charge without having any idea of the outcome? I definitely want to know or at least have a rough idea because the way hattrick is designed with hidden sub-levels for any visible level, you will never know.

As a quick example from recent personal experience, I managed to beat my division leader this game due to careful planning and a bit of luck. Most probable outcomes for this match were according to my calculations: FC Boldesti – Sticla 1-2; 1-3; 1-4; 2-2; 2-3; 2-4; 3-2; 3-3 and 3-4 for a total probability of 50% for one of these results given no special events.

Immediately after the game, the manager of FC Boldesti called me lucky bastard and said he’ll kick my ass bigtime next match. One of the other managers in the division said that I’m clearly the favorite to win this season and my friend asked my why was I worried for not winning when I had such a clear victory. I was calm knowing that this result was pretty much expected.

What do you think of this?

I’ll also be happy to provide specific advice on your team issues.

ProPain · 15-12-2003, 09:19

I think we'll need a seperate forum for this soon

When (if ever) I get my team, I'm happy to try and disect gam mechanics.

Shabbaman · 15-12-2003, 09:58

AARGH! Yndy, check these links, lay back and enjoy (and stop your testing...)

ABC of tactics

hattrick files

This one is good as well, it's in dutch but it's visually strong:

teamrating graph

View Poll Results: Hattrick.org
Cool, I have just applied for a team	4	26.67%
Sounds like fun, maybe I'll join	3	20.00%
Nice, remind me about it in a year or so	1	6.67%
Nah, not my kind	0	0%
WTF, is this about football or soccer?	7	46.67%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

14-12-2003, 14:07	#22
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	apparently people who applied 9th of december got teams yesterday. But technically I applied friday (it was 0:30) So I' m guessing I'll have a team tuesday. When I applied 700 people were wainting, after that the line has grown everyday. 1155 people waiting now __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

14-12-2003, 14:17	#23
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	I've read on the site that dutch league has gotten a lot more members in the last year. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

14-12-2003, 19:27	#24
yndy Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania. Posts: 895	Let’s get this week’s (Day 5 Season 21?) results: Yndy (aka taki_) Romania VI.578 teamid: 183500 FC Boldesti – Sticla T-veni 2-4 Meliflous England VI.289 teamid: 58408 Meli’s Manglers – The u’s 3 – 1 Congrats! Shabbaman Nederland VII.397 teamid: 144548 Shabba FC – Jeroen United 4-0 Cruise Nederland VIII.441 teamid: 363029 Karsie – FC Cruise 3-3 ProPain Nederland waiting team We’ll be five any day now. We need 8 teams to organize a friendly cup. I think we could schedule it in the near future and see if we get the needed number of Civ players by then. If not I’m sure we can find some other guys. __________________ The one and only

14-12-2003, 23:02	#26
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Look at the bright side: You actually have a team and players!!! __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

14-12-2003, 22:56	#25
Cruise Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 139	3-3, but i played it calm... That would have been ok, if i didn't have my top player injured, and if i didn't get a red card. Last time i PIC-ed i had a bad injury as well. Crappy game

15-12-2003, 09:12	#28
yndy Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania. Posts: 895	Yeah, injuries are a pain but you have to live with that as well. I see that only Shabba uses the 3-5-2 strategy. Guys, playing with 3 inner mids is one of the most powerful strategies. Unless you have a strong reason not to, I advise you to switch on that just once to see the difference. I intend to give you some advice on playing and I would also like to share with you the testing that I’m working on so that one could determine: -> individual star ratings based on player abilities and positioning; -> team compartment ratings based on player abilities, positioning, tactic, team attitude and orders; -> chance of win/draw/loss and how those can be maximized with a given squad. I guess that if we get answers to these things, games would be much easier to tackle and we could make informed decisions. I tried to get some help from the community but it seems that most players do not want to know that because it would spoil their ‘magic’. Now, I’m thinking in Civ terms, would you want to know the chances of your 3 Knights to kill a stack of 2 fortified muskets on a hill or not? Should you wait for another knight or charge without having any idea of the outcome? I definitely want to know or at least have a rough idea because the way hattrick is designed with hidden sub-levels for any visible level, you will never know. As a quick example from recent personal experience, I managed to beat my division leader this game due to careful planning and a bit of luck. Most probable outcomes for this match were according to my calculations: FC Boldesti – Sticla 1-2; 1-3; 1-4; 2-2; 2-3; 2-4; 3-2; 3-3 and 3-4 for a total probability of 50% for one of these results given no special events. Immediately after the game, the manager of FC Boldesti called me lucky bastard and said he’ll kick my ass bigtime next match. One of the other managers in the division said that I’m clearly the favorite to win this season and my friend asked my why was I worried for not winning when I had such a clear victory. I was calm knowing that this result was pretty much expected. What do you think of this? I’ll also be happy to provide specific advice on your team issues. __________________ The one and only

15-12-2003, 09:19	#29
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	I think we'll need a seperate forum for this soon When (if ever) I get my team, I'm happy to try and disect gam mechanics. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

15-12-2003, 09:58	#30
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	AARGH! Yndy, check these links, lay back and enjoy (and stop your testing...) ABC of tactics hattrick files This one is good as well, it's in dutch but it's visually strong: teamrating graph __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"