Wanna help out creating a new civ inspired game?

Matrix · 14-09-2018, 16:31

I couldn't reach sullla's site then, but now I can. That's a lot of letters over there, but I'll read it.

About turns and war then. What I first had in mind was this: when you declare war, this isn't announced until the end of the 24 hours and you cannot move your units into enemy territory yet. After the 24 hours, it's the same turn, but then you can move and attack, and are given 12 hours extra to do so. This has two downsides however: any turn in which someone declares war lasts 12 hours longer, and you basically forfeited any units you already had moved during regular play time.

My goal is to keep turn order a holy principle in this. It might not be realistic, but this is purely out of fair play in a gaming perspective. This will be, after all, a turn-based game. So far I can't see a better situation than what I already mentioned.

Shabba's remark about the green men is a very interesting one! Perhaps it should be possible to move your units into enemy territory without declaring war. When you do that, you rish that the other will declare war on you instead, allowing that player to move first the next turn. The bad reputation, as far as AI is concerned, would be reversed in that case. Thus, declaring war determines who gets to move first the next turn, and allow units to attack. Units that are on the same tile (if allowed; I think it will be) fight out immediately who gets to stay on the spot.

In any case, it's just plain silly that units just *poof* move outside of enemy territory once war is declared, like what happens in Civ4 when you declare war on someone with whom you have an open border agreement.

Shabbaman · 19-09-2018, 11:13

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Originally Posted by Matrix

In any case, it's just plain silly that units just *poof* move outside of enemy territory once war is declared, like what happens in Civ4 when you declare war on someone with whom you have an open border agreement.

That is silly indeed. If you are dumb enough to your opponent into your territory, don't be surprised if that access is canceled. I don't see Russian tanks walzing through NATO territory "just for the fun of it".

socralynnek · 10-10-2018, 13:55

Sorry for not replying earlier....

About the programming: I guess, I should not commit to something at the moment, time is too limited...although I think I'd have fun...

About the gameplay aspects that come to my mind,I'll write something in the next days. I guess...

Socrates · 25-10-2018, 08:09

So you're designing the new Civ... Good luck with that!! A big, big while ago I was here told to learn how to code to implement my ideas, but I wasn't into programming. Until I got a master in progamming, and then many years later I started to code at work (how to sum up the last 12 years of my life). My point is... you should learn to code, at least on a basic level, you'll have much more freedom to experiment with your ideas then.

On my side I also have some ideas for a new game, and I should really get back to that soon. Time is so limited...

Chase · 12-11-2018, 21:18

OK

14-09-2018, 16:31	#1
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	I couldn't reach sullla's site then, but now I can. That's a lot of letters over there, but I'll read it. About turns and war then. What I first had in mind was this: when you declare war, this isn't announced until the end of the 24 hours and you cannot move your units into enemy territory yet. After the 24 hours, it's the same turn, but then you can move and attack, and are given 12 hours extra to do so. This has two downsides however: any turn in which someone declares war lasts 12 hours longer, and you basically forfeited any units you already had moved during regular play time. My goal is to keep turn order a holy principle in this. It might not be realistic, but this is purely out of fair play in a gaming perspective. This will be, after all, a turn-based game. So far I can't see a better situation than what I already mentioned. Shabba's remark about the green men is a very interesting one! Perhaps it should be possible to move your units into enemy territory without declaring war. When you do that, you rish that the other will declare war on you instead, allowing that player to move first the next turn. The bad reputation, as far as AI is concerned, would be reversed in that case. Thus, declaring war determines who gets to move first the next turn, and allow units to attack. Units that are on the same tile (if allowed; I think it will be) fight out immediately who gets to stay on the spot. In any case, it's just plain silly that units just poof move outside of enemy territory once war is declared, like what happens in Civ4 when you declare war on someone with whom you have an open border agreement. __________________

10-10-2018, 13:55	#3
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	Sorry for not replying earlier.... About the programming: I guess, I should not commit to something at the moment, time is too limited...although I think I'd have fun... About the gameplay aspects that come to my mind,I'll write something in the next days. I guess... __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

25-10-2018, 08:09	#4
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	So you're designing the new Civ... Good luck with that!! A big, big while ago I was here told to learn how to code to implement my ideas, but I wasn't into programming. Until I got a master in progamming, and then many years later I started to code at work (how to sum up the last 12 years of my life). My point is... you should learn to code, at least on a basic level, you'll have much more freedom to experiment with your ideas then. On my side I also have some ideas for a new game, and I should really get back to that soon. Time is so limited... __________________ Sent from my Debian

12-11-2018, 21:18	#5
Chase Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 4	OK