ALWAYS WAR,MONARCH. - Page 12

Banzai · 21-06-2004, 13:11

Sorry for that!
Because of the golden age I didn't realise we were paying so much gold on unit costs and used our income to keep the science high. I noticed it in turn 7 or 8 and that was too late to make any significant changes (besides disbanding lots of troops - which I did not do).

I hope that with a city at the furs we do not need so many units for military police so we can send a large force to our enemies.
When on the offensive we will lose more troops, but with a force like this we will be able to land quite a punch..
Hopefully you can enjoy the combat!

Banzai!

Col.Tarleton · 21-06-2004, 21:56

I understand your frustration,Beam,but in my turns I had no less than 8 separate cities targetted.We have the wrong shaped civ for AW.Many units had to be built to hold off the AI.
What surprises me is that we haven't generated a M.G.as yet.When we get a couple of armies we can pillage.
In the mean time,do what you can.

Beam · 21-06-2004, 23:21

Be sure I've done everything to get a MGL Tarly.

The main factors hindering us is the shitty terrain requiring many many workers to improve a tile and the central position on the map with civs on all sides.

The Civ itself isn't a real issue imo, we have a tech lead and therefore should be able to produce superior units easily and early. Right now I can't upgrade however because of the cash position. As a matter of fact I'm almost happy losing a cheap unit cause it means less gpt.

Nevertheless, here is the sav at it's current state. Right time to have some discussion how to move on.

Download Attachment: [img]icon_paperclip.gif[/img] Gilgamesh of the Sumerians, 270 AD.SAV
157.84KB

Raw sav btw, didn't do city cycling etc. and some units have movement points left.

Banzai · 22-06-2004, 23:01

Just got a look at the save..
Here is the map:

106.07KB

It looks like we are a bit short on offensive millitary units at the northern front

The elite archer at Sumer is about to die to the NuMerc unless we can cover him or kill the NuMerc.
We do have a sword in Ur, but we will probably lose both units if we attack.
Move at least the med inf at Isin straight north to assist at the front.

On the southern front found the city on the spot (north of the ruins) and use the two celtic slaves to build a road north to connect the city.
All units in the area should enter the new city and heal.
We have only one pike down there, but Bad-tibira at the west has some enkidu available. We should send at least one to defend the new city.
I think we need another pike to defend our offensive southern forces before attacking the eastern Celtic city Burdigxxxx

The new city and the marketplaces due to finish will greatly increase our income.. i hope

Maybe we can do a single scientist research?

Thats all I can think of at this moment..

Banzai!

Col.Tarleton · 25-06-2004, 00:19

I'll try to take it tomorrow,friday 25th june.
Without armies,we're kinda stuffed.270 A.D. and no MGL and plenty of elite victories,seems that the RNG is giving us stick.Once the MGL's start coming,they usually come in squads.I'll build an army,get a victory and then build or rush the heroic epic.Apart from that it will be steady as she goes,batten down all hatches and prepare to submerge.

I'll try to follow your advice ,Banzai.

Banzai · 29-06-2004, 09:57

How is it going, Rodney?

Banzai!

Col.Tarleton · 01-07-2004, 17:28

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by Banzai

How is it going, Rodney?

Banzai!

Sorry for the delay,what with football and playing I.P.i've been rather busy.I'll play soonest.

Col.Tarleton · 03-07-2004, 19:17

Sumeria 270 A.D.
Pre turn. Basically,the strategic situation is very dodgy,most of our cities are in the front line and therefore need defending,making for a high troop cost.The AI menace is growing,we need an army,heroic epic and horses,desperately.
However,it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings,not that I ever go to the opera.8 pints and a sing- song down the pub is my idea of culture.
There are more AI nasties on our northern front than you can shake a stick at.Trouble at mill,lads.
Move troops to N.front. Glossary,S= Spain,F= France,Eg=Egypt,C=Carthage,B=Byzantines,I=Iroquois .Ce=Celts.
I don't attack on the pre-turn and hope for no pillaging.Ur given scientist.
Governer mood controll on for all cities.
I.T.
C.N.M v inky,loses.
Many wounded AI troops scarper.
Turn 1. 280 A.D.
Zabalam 2T (trebuchet) V F H (horse) 1 h.(hit) 1 M.(miss)
sw. fh W
sw.v fh retreat.
Build Kisurra 3 tiles due S. of Umma.Erech,T v S.A (archer) H.
SW. v S.A. W.
Agada. 3 T v B.dromo,Eg.MI, 3 H.
Ashak T v Eg A. H.
Sw v Eg A, W.
I'll post this in case I lose it and continue.

Banzai · 03-07-2004, 19:36

Banzai!

Col.Tarleton · 03-07-2004, 19:42

Sumeria,280 A.D cont.
I.T.
Lagash Market-MI.
Isin catches the 'flu.loses 1 pop.
income=25 GPT. That's a bit better.
Turn 2. 290 A.D.
Agade T v B drom H. It's only necessary to knock 1 HP off for them to go back to port to heal.
There are 16 enemy troops on the northern front,I've got my hands full,here.The game is to kill them without exposing our own troops,unecesessarily.That's where we're in dire need of horses.
I.T.
Bad Tibira Aqueduct-Mkt.
Turn 3. 300 A.D.
Upgrade Inky in Sumer for 60 G.
3 T v C.SW. all miss.
MI v C SW. W.
Elite Archer v C.SW. W.
Hoo-fuckin-ray a great leader apears,Lugalzagest.Archer renamed Robin Hood.I'll build a MI army if I can find some MI's.
Ur 2 T v Eg 2 H.
Sw v Eg MI W.
Build an army in capital and add 1 MI,no more available until next turn.
I.T.
Ur MI-MI
Kish MI-Mkt.
Sumer C A/C v inky W.
C Sw v inkyn L.
to be cont.

21-06-2004, 13:11	#111
Banzai Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 1,226	Sorry for that! Because of the golden age I didn't realise we were paying so much gold on unit costs and used our income to keep the science high. I noticed it in turn 7 or 8 and that was too late to make any significant changes (besides disbanding lots of troops - which I did not do). I hope that with a city at the furs we do not need so many units for military police so we can send a large force to our enemies. When on the offensive we will lose more troops, but with a force like this we will be able to land quite a punch.. Hopefully you can enjoy the combat! Banzai! __________________ I see your face when I am dreaming. That\'s why I always wakeup screaming.

21-06-2004, 21:56	#112
Col.Tarleton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent,UK. Posts: 298	I understand your frustration,Beam,but in my turns I had no less than 8 separate cities targetted.We have the wrong shaped civ for AW.Many units had to be built to hold off the AI. What surprises me is that we haven't generated a M.G.as yet.When we get a couple of armies we can pillage. In the mean time,do what you can. __________________ Basil!!!!!

21-06-2004, 23:21	#113
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Be sure I've done everything to get a MGL Tarly. The main factors hindering us is the shitty terrain requiring many many workers to improve a tile and the central position on the map with civs on all sides. The Civ itself isn't a real issue imo, we have a tech lead and therefore should be able to produce superior units easily and early. Right now I can't upgrade however because of the cash position. As a matter of fact I'm almost happy losing a cheap unit cause it means less gpt. Nevertheless, here is the sav at it's current state. Right time to have some discussion how to move on. Download Attachment: [img]icon_paperclip.gif[/img] Gilgamesh of the Sumerians, 270 AD.SAV 157.84KB Raw sav btw, didn't do city cycling etc. and some units have movement points left. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

22-06-2004, 23:01	#114
Banzai Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 1,226	Just got a look at the save.. Here is the map: 106.07KB It looks like we are a bit short on offensive millitary units at the northern front The elite archer at Sumer is about to die to the NuMerc unless we can cover him or kill the NuMerc. We do have a sword in Ur, but we will probably lose both units if we attack. Move at least the med inf at Isin straight north to assist at the front. On the southern front found the city on the spot (north of the ruins) and use the two celtic slaves to build a road north to connect the city. All units in the area should enter the new city and heal. We have only one pike down there, but Bad-tibira at the west has some enkidu available. We should send at least one to defend the new city. I think we need another pike to defend our offensive southern forces before attacking the eastern Celtic city Burdigxxxx The new city and the marketplaces due to finish will greatly increase our income.. i hope Maybe we can do a single scientist research? Thats all I can think of at this moment.. Banzai! __________________ I see your face when I am dreaming. That\'s why I always wakeup screaming.

25-06-2004, 00:19	#115
Col.Tarleton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent,UK. Posts: 298	I'll try to take it tomorrow,friday 25th june. Without armies,we're kinda stuffed.270 A.D. and no MGL and plenty of elite victories,seems that the RNG is giving us stick.Once the MGL's start coming,they usually come in squads.I'll build an army,get a victory and then build or rush the heroic epic.Apart from that it will be steady as she goes,batten down all hatches and prepare to submerge. I'll try to follow your advice ,Banzai. __________________ Basil!!!!!

29-06-2004, 09:57	#116
Banzai Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 1,226	How is it going, Rodney? Banzai! __________________ I see your face when I am dreaming. That\'s why I always wakeup screaming.

03-07-2004, 19:17	#118
Col.Tarleton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent,UK. Posts: 298	Sumeria 270 A.D. Pre turn. Basically,the strategic situation is very dodgy,most of our cities are in the front line and therefore need defending,making for a high troop cost.The AI menace is growing,we need an army,heroic epic and horses,desperately. However,it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings,not that I ever go to the opera.8 pints and a sing- song down the pub is my idea of culture. There are more AI nasties on our northern front than you can shake a stick at.Trouble at mill,lads. Move troops to N.front. Glossary,S= Spain,F= France,Eg=Egypt,C=Carthage,B=Byzantines,I=Iroquois .Ce=Celts. I don't attack on the pre-turn and hope for no pillaging.Ur given scientist. Governer mood controll on for all cities. I.T. C.N.M v inky,loses. Many wounded AI troops scarper. Turn 1. 280 A.D. Zabalam 2T (trebuchet) V F H (horse) 1 h.(hit) 1 M.(miss) sw. fh W sw.v fh retreat. Build Kisurra 3 tiles due S. of Umma.Erech,T v S.A (archer) H. SW. v S.A. W. Agada. 3 T v B.dromo,Eg.MI, 3 H. Ashak T v Eg A. H. Sw v Eg A, W. I'll post this in case I lose it and continue. __________________ Basil!!!!!

03-07-2004, 19:36	#119
Banzai Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 1,226	Banzai! __________________ I see your face when I am dreaming. That\'s why I always wakeup screaming.

03-07-2004, 19:42	#120
Col.Tarleton Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent,UK. Posts: 298	Sumeria,280 A.D cont. I.T. Lagash Market-MI. Isin catches the 'flu.loses 1 pop. income=25 GPT. That's a bit better. Turn 2. 290 A.D. Agade T v B drom H. It's only necessary to knock 1 HP off for them to go back to port to heal. There are 16 enemy troops on the northern front,I've got my hands full,here.The game is to kill them without exposing our own troops,unecesessarily.That's where we're in dire need of horses. I.T. Bad Tibira Aqueduct-Mkt. Turn 3. 300 A.D. Upgrade Inky in Sumer for 60 G. 3 T v C.SW. all miss. MI v C SW. W. Elite Archer v C.SW. W. Hoo-fuckin-ray a great leader apears,Lugalzagest.Archer renamed Robin Hood.I'll build a MI army if I can find some MI's. Ur 2 T v Eg 2 H. Sw v Eg MI W. Build an army in capital and add 1 MI,no more available until next turn. I.T. Ur MI-MI Kish MI-Mkt. Sumer C A/C v inky W. C Sw v inkyn L. to be cont. __________________ Basil!!!!!