SGOTM8 Turnlogs

[Darkness]

Turn 151-160 (Player: Darkness)

IHT: Switch some builds

IT: Renew silks-gems deal with Japan for 13gpt

1 – Adjust sliders. Set Washington to Newtons prebuild
2 – FP completed in Seattle. Adjust sliders
3 – Finish ToG, start magnetism. Washington to Newtons. Cleveland founded
IT – Trade with Rome ends. No riots.
4 – Decide to sell around chemistry:
Rome: Chemistry for Furs, Wools, World Map, Music Theory, 46 gold and 15gpt
Japan: Chemistry for Navigation, World Map, 113 gold and 11 gpt
Greece: Chemistry for World Map, 190 gold and 31 gpt
Unfortunately England hasn’t got a harbour, so we can’t get their incense…
These deals will give us extra cash to grow, and a 20 turn build-up period to get enough cavalries to tackle Greece (which we should do after we get their IA tech, IMHO)
Also these gpt deals will ‘cause rep-hits for the AI’s should they attack us
China and Scandinavia have nothing to give…
Start cashrushing some…
Adjust sliders
5 – Nothing
6 - Abandan Nanking
IT – Rome builds Sun Tzu’s, Antium builds Sistine Chapel
7 – Magnetism, start metallurgy
8 – Nothing
9 – Adjust sliders.
10 – Nothing

[ProPain]

This is quite a sick variant. No boats means you have to do some mean city blackmailing or wait for airborne units.

[Stapel]

quote:Originally posted by ProPain

This is quite a sick variant. No boats means you have to do some mean city blackmailing or wait for airborne units.

Indeed...
Am I missing something?

[Gyathaar]

quote:Originally posted by ProPain

This is quite a sick variant. No boats means you have to do some mean city blackmailing or wait for airborne units.

Its actually quite amazing how different the game strategy becomes by such a simple change (disabling boats).
A bit puzzling to me that this varant has not been tried more (it infact turned out to be a pretty old variant.. it was used in RBC Epic 5 (http://www.realmsbeyond.net/civ/epic5.html) aswell.. which I didnt discover untill around when SGOTM8 started)

[Rik Meleet]

Turn 161 - 170 (Player: Barbu)

Preturn
Tsintao->courthouse

IT
Greek borders expand destroying our horse colony

560(1)
set research to steam power
Cincinati Library->courthouse
Chicago Hose -> Horse
Kansas city founded in the second island

Japan is has less money than a turn before only 35gpt for metalurgy, I still do it since me want them to go after military tradition

Greece does not want metalurgy (only 11gpt), but agree to pay a wooping 99gpt +160G for physics

Set Slider to 100% to get 5 turn steam at 100gpt

570 (2)
Boston Market->University
Miami aqueduc ->Harbor
Give physics to japan for 18gpt (bether be us than greece)

580 (3)
Phili Horse->Horse (now a 2 turn horse factory)

IT
Renew wines with alexander for 35gpt
Sparta finishes Leo -Nice first targer for our horses

Golden Age is Over

590 (4)
Switch New York to harbor, loosing 14 sheilds, but gaining flood plain for surounding cities At 2 spt university was in 50 turns or 500G not worth it.

600 (5)
NY harbor -> Univerisity
Chicago horse
Dalas Library -> Baracks

610 (6)
Washington Newton-> Magelan (Factory prebuild)

IT
Greek finished Magelan
620 (7)
Steam power comes set research to Ironclad ... hem, I mean Ind (I forgot to uper lux since Hanging obsoletes fortunatly, no riot in core cities.)
We have coal near New-Orlean, and another that can be colonized near greek border. Still no Iron
New-Orlean Aqueduc (as if it needs more water ) -> Harbor


630 (8)
Phili and Chicago Horses -> Musket

640 (9)
Atlanta University -> Musket
Baltimore Aqueduc -> Univ.

We now have contact to England, but they have elected someone else to trade their incence
Japan now has economics.

650 (10)
Buffalo Baracks -> Musket

I'm stoping here. I'll let the next player decide what to do with the order of worker we have.
Next turn will be again to manage growth. We have 1600G, it's probably time to invest a couple in some cities.
Right now, we need 4-5 entertainers, IMHO not worth increasing lux.

[Rik Meleet]

Turn 171 - 180 (Player: Rik)

IBT: Silks import is about to end. Redo the deal.
Buy several TM's to get a better view of the lands.
We cannot build a colony on the Iron sources as the Greek city of Delphi is blocking access. We will need to fight Greece for Iron. I'm not sure preparing for war is an option now. Better to wait till Iron does becoma avaiable. Rushbuy a lot of stuff.

IBT: Rome declared on Japan.

-1-
IBT: London finishes Bach's.

-2- Japan has Ivory for sale. We don't need it really. Switch Washington to bank.
IBT: Indistrialization is learned. Next tech: Electricity. (7)
Japan finishes Statue of Zeus.

-3- Several nations have Military tradition. I wait 1 turn with trading for it as next turn many deals will end.
I do send the horses northwards.

-4- Sell Magnetism to Rome for Wool + Furs + Mil Trad + 11 gpt + 3 gold. Mil Trad to England for Exonomics + WM + 6 gold. Mag to Japan for Ivory + 5 gpt + 51 gold. Gift Scandinavia Dyes. He jumps from Annoyed to Polite.
Change continental musket builds to Cavs. Upgrade some horsemen to cav.

-5- Washington finishes bank. starts Cav.

-6-

-7-

-8-

-9- Washington builds cav, starts another. Japan finishes Smith's. Still no Iron on the market.
IBT: Japan wants to talk. Their WM for ToG. No.
Rome demands Dyes. No. Julius doesn't declare.
Electricity is learned. Choose RP as next (but that can be changed, 0 beakers spend yet) tech for Engineers.

-10-
Didn't MM yet. moved some units but that's about it. Darkness: Your turn.
Japan is willing to pay a huge sum for ToG. I advise to wait 1 more turn though, as then 2 great deals expire and they may be able to pay more then.

[Darkness]

Turn 181 - 190 (Player: Darkness)

750AD (0) – Nothing
760AD (1) – Sell ToG to Japan for 432 gold, World Map and 108 gpt. ToG to Rome for 15 gold and 23 gpt.
IT – Greece enters the Industrial age (get Steam Power). Huge horde of Barbarians appears near Shantung (24 horsies or so)
770AD (2) – Nothing
IT – Barbarians attack Shantung. The first one dies. The next three sack Shantung, killing the worker. The other 20 fortunately start wandering towards Rome and China
780AD (3) – Cancel Wines deal with Greece. Trade ToG to England for spices and Printing Press. Declare War on Greece. Take Corinth and Xinjian
IT – Tsingtao and Baltimore riot…
790AD (4) – Capture Athens
IT – 8 barbarians sack Shantung, they take about 100 gold…
800AD (5) – Nothing…
IT - Corinth bloody flips back to Greece….
810AD (6) – Discover Rep. parts, start Corporation. Corinth retaken.
IT – Another three barbarians sack Shantung, taking a grand total of 6 gold…
820AD (7) – Nothing…
830AD (8) – Grrr. Damn game freezes!!! That should teach me not to have a dozen other programs running a the same time… NOT! Reload from the autosave. Take Thermopylae. Rush settler in Athens. Rush Infantry in Shantung as it is now undefended and there is a barbarian camp near.
840AD (9) – Position settler from Athens just S of the Iron source.
IT – Japan moves a cavalry next to Shantung and two ships appear next to Boston. ROP-rape coming up!!!!!!!!!
850AD (10) – Found San Diego. We now have access to Iron. Workers start railroading immediately. Capture Sparta and Pharsalos. Trade dyes to Rome for WM, 110 gold and 4gpt. Trade dyes to England for 18 gold and 8gpt. Cashrush some…

Notes for the next player:
- All Greece is willing to give for peace (and it has been that way the entire war) is Thessalonica (which is a city that is alone on an island). Maybe if you move units into their territory next turn (or the turn after) they will give more.
- Starve all Greek cities to size 1. Greece is the cultural leader this game, so flip risk is present.
- I did not move the 4 cavalries near Boston. They will be needed in that area because we are about to be declared upon by Japan and they will attempt to land units somewhere around there…
- I also did not MM the cities, and the tax/lux/sci sliders on turn 10.

[Darkness]

Turn 191 - 200 (Player: barbu)
Preturn, According to civ assist we are on the spot for Corporation, so I hire a couple of scientists in case japan declares war and there ia a riot or 2.

IT: renew silk with japan for wines gem and 20gpt Did nothing good since japan still declared war on us!

860AD (1)
Corporation comes around, select Refining (7)
Was. Cavalry -> Factory
Buf. Caval -> Courthouse
Rome goes to war against japan for Wine and Gems
Scandinavia goes to war on Japan for Physics

IT
Greece wants peace, rejected

870AD (2)
Atlanta Cav ->Factory

IT
Japan lands 3 units on grassland
Greece Kills 1 Cav

880AD (3)
Boston Univ. -> Factory
Delphi is going not good, I loose 2 cavs, 1 to a unfortified crusader and 1 to a musquet

Lower science to 80% so we can have cash to rush lib and temple when we get the greek city.

890AD (4)
Miami Cav -> Lib
Give Steam Power to rome for Fur wools and 7gpt
While we are at it, I give it to england for 25 gpt (They do not have Coal)

900AD (5)
Our mainland has raill coverage to every cities

Greece is now willing to Give Ephesus and Tessalonica for peace Since Ephesus is in the capitol region, I prefer not to wait that it grows and gets harder to bring down to size 1. I make Peace.

910AD (6)
New Orleans Harbour -> CourtHouse
Rush Lib in Ephesus

920AD (7)
MM

930AD (8)
MM

940AD (9)
Buffalo and Beging Produce Settler
SF university
Refinery is in Steel in 7 at 80% and +60GPT. We have 1 oil ressource. We realy needed to get gid of the greeks to get acces.

Rush the Infantry in Ephesus.

950AD (10)
Canton and Tatung revolt

Notes for the next player:

Are we willing to give electricity or industrialisation to greece, rome and England for about 125gpt? Since we are close to the end, giving electricity might mean having to fight infantry.
The 2 settlers are IMHO ready to lay their bag.
I have not managed the last turn, and there is still a bit of starving to to to the greeks.
There oil north of the 3 old japaneese territory.

[ProPain]

Any chance of a map pic??

Pretty Please...

With a cherry on top and so on

[barbu1977]

Ask and you shall receive:

Our Core:




Greek and chineese Teritory



Note that we have a city on the English Island.