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Old 02-05-2004, 18:55   #1
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Without a doubt the most lousy start from all civs as I have 2 core cities on the mongol (Akots) island that I cannever defend and share half my primary island with the aztecs (Matrix). Also athens is ' conveniently ;located in the upper right tip of my empire. Tempted to quit this game before it started. Not balanced at all imo. After the 1 st turn it turned out I'm 5th (last) in MFG, although I upped my lux rate to have no specialist. I;'m doomed. Offered Akots peace untill I conquered Matrix and he Beam for my 2 cities (2 be delivered after the conquests) which he refused. Also told me he would attack me asap. No surprise there. He offered me a 10 turns peace deal which I took.

Not sure what I'll do, but I';m not gonna spend much time on this one.
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Old 02-05-2004, 19:47   #2
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wow, I thought light green had some possibilities!

Even when you do lose the towns on the yellow island, you are the one with the biggest land conquest ability! You should outproduce matrix' Aztecs at least on that part of the map! If you take that area, I see a future there!


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Old 02-05-2004, 20:39   #3
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Not balanced at all imo.
Exactly the reason why I didn't join. It looked way too unbalanced for my taste.

Well, good luck anyways!!!
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Old 03-05-2004, 02:32   #4
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Can't you make alliances with anyone?
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Old 03-05-2004, 08:50   #5
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Matrix should have defnitely let more experienced members balance that map
Maybe you should give the game to KR to see what he can do with it

In terms of alliances, maybe you can convince someone (the blues) to attack Matrix on his native island while you
concentrate on your core island ! If he is outstretched, theres a slight chance you could come out good...
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Old 30-05-2004, 16:54   #6
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Quit the game after Matrix attacked. Couldnt bring myself to continue it, it was lost anyway. Retook Knossos and destroyed invasion forces. In a twist of fate I even got a leader, what a waste . Retired after clearing Greece from the evil aztecs. Interesting part will be to read if people were anticipating on my manhattan build. If so, they might have a problem now it's not gonna be build next turn but in 3 turns.

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Old 30-05-2004, 19:36   #7
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... Offered Akots peace untill I conquered Matrix and he Beam for my 2 cities (2 be delivered after the conquests) which he refused. ...
That was the problem. I mean in "after". If I got them "before" your conquered Matrix, that would be OK.

Indeed, you land grabbing possibility against the Aztec is excellent.
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Old 30-05-2004, 20:28   #8
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Not really a problem for me akots. You were free to counteroffer which you didnt and it's a bit optimistic to expect me to just hand over my cities isnt it? I can always disband cities when the need arises, always better than handing them over right away. So that wouldn't have made any sense.

BTW akots, you shouldnt read a spoiler from someone who quit the game before the game ends. You could see info you're not allowed to see like screenshots from city investigations from your opponents.


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Old 01-06-2004, 06:16   #9
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quote:Originally posted by ProPain Not really a problem for me akots. You were free to counteroffer which you didnt and it's a bit optimistic to expect me to just hand over my cities isnt it? ...
That was exactly the point. I wanted them intact. However, indeed, if you would have disbanded them, that would mean peace also apparently. In general I though you wanted to attack me from these cities since I saw on turn 3 many Modern Armors and Stealth Bombers instead of Mechanic Infantries there.

Hows about Matrix trading luxuries with you starting from the very first turn? Isn't it backstabbing or terms like this are not applicable to Death Match? IMO, trade means peace for 20 turns. Or this is also not applicable to Death Match?

My vision of the game was that you have trusted Matrix to stay in peace till turn 20 and meanwhile decided to attack Mongols with everything you have and he just backstabbed you ruining all the plans?

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quote:Originally posted by ProPainBTW akots, you shouldnt read a spoiler from someone who quit the game before the game ends. You could see info you're not allowed to see like screenshots from city investigations from your opponents.
Yes, this is a point, sorry about that. Have not read the other spoilers though and there are no screenies here, so, I guess it is possible to forgive me provided that I promise to stay away in the future?
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BTW akots, you shouldnt read a spoiler from someone who quit the game before the game ends. You could see info you're not allowed to see like screenshots from city investigations from your opponents.
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