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19-07-2006, 06:05
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Another New Team: Hunting Penguins
Well, I was conned into joining hattrick without reading any of the previous posts since I am a bit of a soccer fan and have some more time now that I don't play Kings of Chaos. I had planned on having a week or at least a couple days between when I signed up and when I got my team based on what I heard and was going to use that time to get caught up on how to play the game. Instead I join at 5 pm and have an e-mail at 10 pm saying I have a team. I don't have a lot of time the next couple days, since I'm working on publishing a paper, and consequently can't read through all the long threads (I'll try to make it over to Krys thread though since he is in a similar position). Tips for getting started would be appreciated.
I am #4 in VI.544 Wisconsin Region of USA club #226236 First scheduled match is on Sat. the 24th My team as given: Quote:
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19-07-2006, 08:15
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Welcome on board. That Quentin Mayes is a good player, the rest is ehm, crap. The first suggestion is to read to rules and finish the manager challenge (for money, you know). And if you read Tubby's thread, for instance, you can find a lot of info.
Or just fire away, we're eager to help. Best tip of the day: try to arrange a friendly for today (or tomorrow). That's going to be difficult, because most players arrange their matches in advance. But if you look in the advertisements sections (somewhere halfway the left column) there's a friendlies section. Post an ad there, and start challenging people. Playing a match is important, because otherwise your playerd don't get trained. Next up: deciding what you want to train. Goalkeeping is very easy to start with.
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19-07-2006, 10:50
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Maybe getting a friendly isn't that important at the moment considering that your squad at this time doesn't really have a player that really benefits from being trained (they're not good enough, I'm afraid).
If your short on time, I'd prioritize the following things: - Most important thing is to get a training regime started for your team, as that is the most solid method of getting forward for new teams. Goalkeeping is a good training for newer teams and/or teams with less time, there's probably a lot more on that in the Tubby thread, as Tubby is training goalies. If you do go for goalkeeping training (personally I'd recommend it), make sure you get: 1) at least 1 trainable goalkeeper before the next league match (sunday) and 1 before the next friendly after today. A trainable goalkeeper would be an 18 year old solid (about 100K value) 2) replace your current coach by using external recruiting and go for a passable coach with poor leadership. Most people here would probably recommend a solid coach, which is better but more expensive, and I think it might be doable to survive, however it will require some financial balancing acts, and a little luck with not getting your keepers injured, in the first few months. Whether you'd like to take it relaxed the first few weeks, or aim for optimal results, is basicly the choice you make when going for a passable or solid coach. Also, if you want to do reasonably okay in the league next season (starts in 4 weeks) you will need some extra money for some reinforcements, since as Shabba said, most players you got aren;t really any good. That's not an immediate concern though. Finally, as for hiring staff, I would go for hiring 1 spokesperson and 1 physio now, plus 1 goalkeeping coach next week as well. Good luck and welcome to HT! 
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19-07-2006, 10:55
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You know, I do have a trainee on the transferlist now. The deadline is something about 1 CET, that's about dinner time in where you are, I guess.
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19-07-2006, 11:09
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Welcome.
I'm a newbie, but since I'm mentioned in this thread (I'm mentioned because I'm a newbie though  ), I might just post as well.Indeed your team seems pretty weak, except for that Quentin Mayes, which could be used as an inner midfielder or a forward (is that right ?  ).I'm on my way to GK training, so you're welcome to read my thread if that's the route you intend to take soon.
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19-07-2006, 12:42
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sz_matyas, Kemal stated that a trainable GK would be an 18 year old solid, and I would argue that you should be able to get a 17yo solid at a reasonable price since it's at the end of the season. 1 year matters a good bit for your trainees. Shabba's GK trainee is a good one since he's 1 weeks training from popping to solid.
I think that the following players aren't too terribly bad and don't need to be fired/sold right at the beginning. - Jesse Mcghee (Defending, but the Head specialty will bite you as a defender since a technical forward could run circles around him) - John Villa (forward, or even defensive forward) - Kevin Cardona (defender) - Quentin Mayes (as people mentioned. he could be played as an inner midfielder, forward, defensive forward, or offensive inner mid) - Shad Goetz (defender or even wing back) - Steve Ferguson (winger) - William Mayolo (winger to middle or inner midfielder) All in all, you do have a crappy starting squad. But do not fear, as you'll likely be playing against a bunch of bots and their easy to beat. I just looked at your league, and it appears as though they just dumped 6 other new teams in that league. The #1 guy has been there since the beginning of the season. It looks like if you win against Itailia5 this week then you have a good chance at finishing 2nd. It might not sound like a lot to the other guys here, but the prize for finishing 2nd is $60k, 3rd is $45k, and 4th is $23k. That extra boost in a starting squad will help out tremendously. So aim for 2 wins. That means buying a bunch of decent players before your match on Sunday. so here's what I would do right now. - set training to stamina and 100% intensity for now - finish the challenges as quick as possible - buy players to fill out your lineup. (more on this later as I have to finish my coffee and get to work. I'll goof off when I get bored in a little while and give you a little more insight as to what to buy. Or the other guys here will) - save some money for at least a passable skilled / poor leadership coach = $79 600 (although I would recommend a solid / poor coach for $268 700) According to the rules, you can go into 200k in debt while buying players. I would try to limit the debt that you have to 100k - 150k. Your income at the beginning will cause you to lose some money for a good while. But you should be able to manage the 100-150k in debt and not have to worry with it. GK training is fast so if you need to sell one, it's not that big of a deal. The challenges should give you $250k and with your initial $50k and the ability to go into debt, that leaves you with say $400k to play with. Don't spend it all in one place 
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 3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?
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19-07-2006, 17:50
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Ok here is what I have come up with... play a 4-4-2
Forwards - Quentin Mayes & John Villa Inner Midfielders - purchase 2 of them (try to get passable playmnaking with passing inadequate or better) ~$45k - 50k each Wingers - Steve Ferguson & William Mayolo Defenders - Kevin Cardona & Jesse McGhee (if you get time try to replace Jesse Mcghee, you might even try to sell him and buy someone with similar qualities) Wing Backs - Shad Goetz. You need to buy one of these guys too (passable winger and defender) maybe $30k-40k everyone else fire. You might be able to sell Luther Smith or Paul Henley , but I doubt that you'll get your money back for putting them on the transfer list. You can only fire one guy every 12 hours so you might want to start now so that you finish by Saturday evening when the USA economic updates are ran and you pay their salaries again. Oh and if you are training GK's then you need to get 2 trainees. I would recommend 1 17 yo passable (shabba's is a good start) and 1 18 solid. after you get them, get your new coach and switch your training to GK @ 100%. If you are training anything else, disregard most of what I've said.
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3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?
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19-07-2006, 18:03
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Really, the guy I pulled might do with a single training, and because he has already played this wee k you'll get a free training. I hate pushing this guy, but it's pure gold. GOLD! Anyway, do with him what you want. His player id is 122840745, deadline at 00:31 CET.
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19-07-2006, 18:15
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I'm tempted to sell one of my guys just to make the money off of him...
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3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?
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19-07-2006, 18:48
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Thanks for the tips. I'm getting started on the challenges and trying to book a friendly right now. What would be a good price for your goalie Shabba, current bid is $70K (mine), slightly above the asking price. As for youth squad, what is a good investment level. (I set it at $10K/week, since I don't think I have the money to support a better one) My first pull was a 20 yr old goalkeeper with 0 TSI and no skills at all, making him my first play fired.
Well I should really get back to work, but this gave me someplace to start.
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