And yet another bug!

Kingreno · 14-12-2003, 11:56

And one that has some usefulnes as well

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If AI troops enter your territory in sufficient numbers you can ask them to "remove or declare war". Nothing wrong so far. If they declare war, well, you have war.
If they leave, they leave. Now say they leave. close the diploscreen with that civ and re-contact that civ. Now you can AGAIN ask them to remove or declare war, even when their forces have left your territory after the last meeting.
Now what is the point? Every time you state the "leave or war demand" the AI gets a little more angry with you, to the point where they actually declare war. So If you repeat the proces, every incursion in your territory can lead to the AI declaring war on you. This in turn can be useful for the obvious reasons like warhappiness, reputationhits and cheap techs due to Gpt.[

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I have no idea if this was in PTW as well, but my guess is no, since I never noticed it before.

ProPain · 14-12-2003, 12:32

Not quite sure, but iirc you could ask the comp to leave your territory when there were no troops but then it would say something like:'We have no troops in your territory'

Kingreno · 17-12-2003, 19:37

Lets play a game: Find the bug. A free beer for the person who finds it first!

90.5KB

anarres · 17-12-2003, 20:36

You mean 10% tax getting one commerce and 20% lux getting none? [

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There are known roundign bugs when the corruption slider (in the editor) is set to anything other than 100%. Rise of Rome is the only scenario with it, so what's going on here?

Skyfish · 17-12-2003, 20:51

Shit ! thats a bad one ... Sometimes I get this in PTW but if you move the lux slider up and down the game recalculates and shows the right screen, isnt it so ?

Kingreno · 17-12-2003, 21:20

Anarres recieves the beer!

But seriously, this is a very bad bug. This is an untweaked random map

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Plux · 17-12-2003, 21:39

Shouldn't you also get three lux in the center tile? Or is the third wasted because of despotic penalty?

Kingreno · 17-12-2003, 21:53

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quote:Originally posted by Plux

Shouldn't you also get three lux in the center tile? Or is the third wasted because of despotic penalty?

I am still an English despot here plux.

ProPain · 17-12-2003, 22:16

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quote:Originally posted by Skyfish

Shit ! thats a bad one ... Sometimes I get this in PTW but if you move the lux slider up and down the game recalculates and shows the right screen, isnt it so ?

I'm not quite sure if it's all ok in ptw. I've had two instances where I moved my lux slider after pop growth from 1 to 2 and got a happy face on 10%. Still civil disorder a turn later.

This only happened to me when growing from 1 to 2 and with 10/20%. Cant post it though. 1 was a SP game that I trashed, other one is a running pbem.

Lt. Killer M · 18-12-2003, 09:27

I also have had very weird rounding errors, like 10% science and 10% lux give me less happiness than 10% science and no lux tax if I have 2 luxuries connected....

or, hogher tax rate = lower income!!!!

14-12-2003, 11:56	#1
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	And yet another bug! And one that has some usefulnes as well... If AI troops enter your territory in sufficient numbers you can ask them to "remove or declare war". Nothing wrong so far. If they declare war, well, you have war. If they leave, they leave. Now say they leave. close the diploscreen with that civ and re-contact that civ. Now you can AGAIN ask them to remove or declare war, even when their forces have left your territory after the last meeting. Now what is the point? Every time you state the "leave or war demand" the AI gets a little more angry with you, to the point where they actually declare war. So If you repeat the proces, every incursion in your territory can lead to the AI declaring war on you. This in turn can be useful for the obvious reasons like warhappiness, reputationhits and cheap techs due to Gpt.[] I have no idea if this was in PTW as well, but my guess is no, since I never noticed it before. __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

14-12-2003, 12:32	#2
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Not quite sure, but iirc you could ask the comp to leave your territory when there were no troops but then it would say something like:'We have no troops in your territory' __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

17-12-2003, 19:37	#3
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	Lets play a game: Find the bug. A free beer for the person who finds it first! 90.5KB __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

17-12-2003, 20:36	#4
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	You mean 10% tax getting one commerce and 20% lux getting none? [] There are known roundign bugs when the corruption slider (in the editor) is set to anything other than 100%. Rise of Rome is the only scenario with it, so what's going on here? __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

17-12-2003, 20:51	#5
Skyfish Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: dead. Posts: 2,349	Shit ! thats a bad one ... Sometimes I get this in PTW but if you move the lux slider up and down the game recalculates and shows the right screen, isnt it so ? __________________ <font color=\"brown\"> <b><i>\"NOT back from the dead\"</b></i> </font id=\"brown\">

17-12-2003, 21:20	#6
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	Anarres recieves the beer! But seriously, this is a very bad bug. This is an untweaked random map . __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

17-12-2003, 21:39	#7
Plux King Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,214	Shouldn't you also get three lux in the center tile? Or is the third wasted because of despotic penalty?

18-12-2003, 09:27	#10
Lt. Killer M Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: HAWK!. Posts: 4,365	I also have had very weird rounding errors, like 10% science and 10% lux give me less happiness than 10% science and no lux tax if I have 2 luxuries connected.... or, hogher tax rate = lower income!!!! __________________ One more turn..... just one more turn... one MORE!