Stupid continents...

Shabbaman · 07-07-2006, 18:22

Somehow, every game I play on "continents" gets me a continent for myself, or with 1 other civ. I always end up at the smaller continent, leaving me with a quarter to a third of the land mass. I think it's pretty difficult to keep up techwise, because you can't trade until you (or the AI) gets astronomy.

By that time, it often gets worse. Of course "my" continent always lacks either oil or coal. Grrr...

Tubby Rower · 07-07-2006, 18:52

you could use caravels instead of galleons [

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Shabbaman · 07-07-2006, 18:53

Only for establishing contact.

Tubby Rower · 07-07-2006, 18:55

I agree with you that the continents map script is unfair. I've been in both situations and both suck. when you are on the big island, the lone civ on the small continent just can't compete and is annoyed at you because you are so advanced

akots · 07-07-2006, 20:14

In general, imho, in Civ4, playing random unchecked and untested maps especially on a continents script might be not such a great idea. Map generator script is very seriously broken on some instances.

Beam · 07-07-2006, 21:27

I am in my 13th emperor practice match now, playing continents because of the great variety and situations and although a lot of times there are just 2 continents. To often there are one or two small 1 Civ continents and I ended up on one of those 2 times. One time there were a couple of aggressive civs and your own island becomes a heaven of peace and I got a spacerace win. The other time I was invaded at the moment of catching up techwise and unprepared for an invasion.

Of the 12 previous games about half had to be abandoned because of either early massive barb invasion or massive midgame AI invasions being unprepared. This has little to do with continents and more with me learning Emperor btw.

I agree that the continents script isn't very consistent but that applies to other aspects as well. Always used the same settings for the map, sometimes there is a lot of jungle (not so good) other times a lot of desert (BAAAAD).

DaveShack · 08-07-2006, 02:03

I've been using SmartMap exclusively for a couple of months now. It seems to balance pretty well, and the level of control over the landmass is just awesome. If there's any knock on it, it gives a pretty resource-rich environment, but that only matters if you like to struggle for resources.

ProPain · 05-11-2006, 17:31

Whats smartmap?

col · 05-11-2006, 19:44

It allows you to custimise the maps - and its pretty good at 'fair' starts.

Lt. Killer M · 15-01-2007, 14:40

Let me add to

's whining here: I tried 'islands' for a while now. Each and every time I end up as the guy who needs Caravels for contact, while at least 5 AI can gain contact with galleys. Super!
Each and every time I lack at least one important resource, each time present up to 5(!) times for my next neighbour.
It sucks!

DaveShack, col, could either of you post a link to smartmap, please?

07-07-2006, 18:22	#1
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,493	Stupid continents... Somehow, every game I play on "continents" gets me a continent for myself, or with 1 other civ. I always end up at the smaller continent, leaving me with a quarter to a third of the land mass. I think it's pretty difficult to keep up techwise, because you can't trade until you (or the AI) gets astronomy. By that time, it often gets worse. Of course "my" continent always lacks either oil or coal. Grrr... __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

07-07-2006, 18:52	#2
Tubby Rower Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle of VA. Posts: 3,896	you could use caravels instead of galleons [] __________________ 3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?

07-07-2006, 18:53	#3
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,493	Only for establishing contact. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

07-07-2006, 18:55	#4
Tubby Rower Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle of VA. Posts: 3,896	I agree with you that the continents map script is unfair. I've been in both situations and both suck. when you are on the big island, the lone civ on the small continent just can't compete and is annoyed at you because you are so advanced __________________ 3/2006 : Now, surely that must be because some fists might have caused internal damage to certain delicate parts?

07-07-2006, 20:14	#5
akots Nebuchadnezzar II Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Glover Park Posts: 4,459	In general, imho, in Civ4, playing random unchecked and untested maps especially on a continents script might be not such a great idea. Map generator script is very seriously broken on some instances. __________________ Cujusvis hominis est errare; nullius, nisi insipientis in errore perseverare Ciceron (Marcus Tullius)

07-07-2006, 21:27	#6
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	I am in my 13th emperor practice match now, playing continents because of the great variety and situations and although a lot of times there are just 2 continents. To often there are one or two small 1 Civ continents and I ended up on one of those 2 times. One time there were a couple of aggressive civs and your own island becomes a heaven of peace and I got a spacerace win. The other time I was invaded at the moment of catching up techwise and unprepared for an invasion. Of the 12 previous games about half had to be abandoned because of either early massive barb invasion or massive midgame AI invasions being unprepared. This has little to do with continents and more with me learning Emperor btw. I agree that the continents script isn't very consistent but that applies to other aspects as well. Always used the same settings for the map, sometimes there is a lot of jungle (not so good) other times a lot of desert (BAAAAD). __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

08-07-2006, 02:03	#7
DaveShack Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA - Arizona (gmt-7). Posts: 50	I've been using SmartMap exclusively for a couple of months now. It seems to balance pretty well, and the level of control over the landmass is just awesome. If there's any knock on it, it gives a pretty resource-rich environment, but that only matters if you like to struggle for resources. __________________ Show your Warlords 1v1 skills at Bilko\'s Battleroom

05-11-2006, 17:31	#8
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Whats smartmap? __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

05-11-2006, 19:44	#9
col King Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Sandwich Islands. Posts: 1,529	It allows you to custimise the maps - and its pretty good at 'fair' starts. __________________ I can't be arsed.

15-01-2007, 14:40	#10
Lt. Killer M Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: HAWK!. Posts: 4,365	Let me add to 's whining here: I tried 'islands' for a while now. Each and every time I end up as the guy who needs Caravels for contact, while at least 5 AI can gain contact with galleys. Super! Each and every time I lack at least one important resource, each time present up to 5(!) times for my next neighbour. It sucks! DaveShack, col, could either of you post a link to smartmap, please? __________________ One more turn..... just one more turn... one MORE!