Tour de France - Page 6

Kingreno · 21-07-2006, 10:55

I expect some form of attack today. Phonak realy is not good enough to keep the race closed all 200+ km, and this race is hillier then it looks!

socralynnek · 21-07-2006, 11:18

Yeah, I guessall teams expect Caisse d'Epargne and Phonbak try to put their second best placed guy into the group (Rogers, Schleck and Boogerd)

BTw, Boogerd, I didn't understand what he did yesterday.
When Menschov attacked he rode at his side not in front of him and when Menschov fell back he didn't help him.

Is it more important for him coming into TOP 10 then helping his captain to maybe reach TOP 3? That was strange...

Shabbaman · 21-07-2006, 11:42

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quote:Originally posted by socralynnek

BTw, Boogerd, I didn't understand what he did yesterday.
When Menschov attacked he rode at his side not in front of him and when Menschov fell back he didn't help him.

Well, you saw (or you missed

) what happened when Boogerd rides in front of him: they ride too fast and he can't catch up. I think that Mentsjov likes to ride his own pace. When he failed at Alpe d'Huez Rasmussen was riding next to him as well.
And with that speed, what good does it do when someone rides in front of you? It's not really aerodynamical or something.

When Mentsjov fell back, Boogerd was let to ride his own pace. Rasmussen was still there to help him. What was the strange part of this decision is that Boogerd fell back together with Mentsjov and then went on on his own. It'd have made more sense if Boogerd just went on and Mentsjov fell back alone, or Rasmussen was sent forward.

Kingreno · 27-07-2006, 16:35

OMG...Landis tests positive on testosteron!!! This will hurt the game for years to come...

Darkness · 27-07-2006, 16:39

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quote:Originally posted by Kingreno

OMG...Landis tests positive on testosteron!!! This will hurt the game for years to come...

IMVHO the game is dying...

It is really a shame, but the drug incidents are casting a huge cloud of doubt and suspicion over the sport. Many people I know (and that really like the sport) don't follow it much anymore because they believe most (if not all) riders are doped.

grahamiam · 27-07-2006, 16:40

what an asshole

Shabbaman · 27-07-2006, 18:23

Landis caught using testosterone. Guess after what stage? Indeed, to Morzine. Wanker.

Kingreno · 27-07-2006, 19:29

Official Phonak press announcement says they deny all charges and claim an error. If the the contra-expertise is also psoitive however they will fire Landis! I'd be very very surprised if the other test suddenly says no doping usage.
American press claim that from his religious hardliner heritage he'd never use it. well. He also liked his beers after every stage no?

Socrates · 27-07-2006, 19:57

Another American rider who will hate France soon enough...

I didn't watch the Tour this year : World Cup + big scandal was enough, and now we learn that secondary riders who became primary riders because of said scandal are also caught, hahaha !

Robboo · 27-07-2006, 21:08

well this is simply amazing..just when you think the tour is clean and these guys wouldnt risk it..oh welll.

Think of it from his point of view(warped) hip is bad, could be his last race, might miss next year anyway, drug charge lasts 2 years, perfect take drugs, maybe I get passed the test... win tour. Get caught, sit out 2 years recover from hip..come back adn race.

I think life time bans are needed.

21-07-2006, 10:55	#51
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	I expect some form of attack today. Phonak realy is not good enough to keep the race closed all 200+ km, and this race is hillier then it looks! __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

21-07-2006, 11:18	#52
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	Yeah, I guessall teams expect Caisse d'Epargne and Phonbak try to put their second best placed guy into the group (Rogers, Schleck and Boogerd) BTw, Boogerd, I didn't understand what he did yesterday. When Menschov attacked he rode at his side not in front of him and when Menschov fell back he didn't help him. Is it more important for him coming into TOP 10 then helping his captain to maybe reach TOP 3? That was strange... __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

27-07-2006, 16:35	#54
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	OMG...Landis tests positive on testosteron!!! This will hurt the game for years to come... __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

27-07-2006, 18:23	#57
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	Landis caught using testosterone. Guess after what stage? Indeed, to Morzine. Wanker. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

27-07-2006, 19:29	#58
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	Official Phonak press announcement says they deny all charges and claim an error. If the the contra-expertise is also psoitive however they will fire Landis! I'd be very very surprised if the other test suddenly says no doping usage. American press claim that from his religious hardliner heritage he'd never use it. well. He also liked his beers after every stage no? __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.

27-07-2006, 16:40	#56
grahamiam Emperor Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA, East Coast. Posts: 2,673	what an asshole

27-07-2006, 19:57	#59
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	Another American rider who will hate France soon enough... I didn't watch the Tour this year : World Cup + big scandal was enough, and now we learn that secondary riders who became primary riders because of said scandal are also caught, hahaha ! __________________ Sent from my Debian

27-07-2006, 21:08	#60
Robboo King Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cajun Country. Posts: 2,002	well this is simply amazing..just when you think the tour is clean and these guys wouldnt risk it..oh welll. Think of it from his point of view(warped) hip is bad, could be his last race, might miss next year anyway, drug charge lasts 2 years, perfect take drugs, maybe I get passed the test... win tour. Get caught, sit out 2 years recover from hip..come back adn race. I think life time bans are needed.