Team CDZ Turnplay Thread - Page 54

socralynnek · 21-07-2006, 23:11

How long would it take to build the Pentagon? Too long I guess without an Engineer.
So, yes a +2 civic would be nice. But either Vassalage or Theocracy is fine (if we agree on going for Judaism, which I don't prefer then Theo is better than OR)

Shabba, do you want to finish your turns, I could play tomorrow or on Sunday morning then (grahamiam is away over the weekend)?

socralynnek · 23-07-2006, 13:53

So, if Shabba doesn't want to finish his turns (just post when you want to play on), I'll play later today.

Any more thoughts on civics etc?

socralynnek · 23-07-2006, 23:36

I'll play in a few minutes...

socralynnek · 24-07-2006, 00:11

Played my 5 turns:

1752 (1) - Switch to Vassalage.

1760 AD (5) - Roosevelt still doesn't have Assembly Line, so I think we can and should attack him next turn.

Beam · 24-07-2006, 01:50

I lost track who is up atm, guess gram or sam?

Completed the PA testgame this weekend. In brief it is quite a lengthy procedure because you need to be in either / both (???) a defensive pact or common war to start a PA.

Standard map, normal speed, pelago and exaxtly the same civs as in our game. Cathy turned out to be the most likely candidate so efforts were focussed on that. This includes giving in to demands. As soon as PA's appeared on the trade table Cathies opinion was we hadn't been "long enough in a defensive pact or common war" imo the best indication a PA is likely. I would have to check the saves I made but iirc it took about 50 turns from the first defensive pact to the PA at normal game speed. At Epic this most likely will require more turns.

So imo domination can achieved faster the aggresive way from where we are now than by prepping for a PA.

Samson · 24-07-2006, 10:12

Quote:

quote:Originally posted by Beam

I lost track who is up atm, guess gram or sam?

Samson -> UP I guess
Beam -> On Deck
Shabbaman
grahamiam -> Skipped until today
socralynnek -> Just Played

I can play later today. If grahamiam want to take it he could post a got it before I do.

Samson · 24-07-2006, 13:20

Got it. Anyone any thoughts on techs? I guess we are going for full war so anything that helps with that would be good. Ther other option would be Mass media. I shall probably aim for radio.

Samson · 24-07-2006, 14:34

PFC – Upped reaserch to get flight in 1.

milatry available;
Inf: 13
cav: 13
Can: 9

Getting there.

IBT Flight > Electricity(8). CF Inf > Fighter. CC factory > coal plant. Medina Lib > Barracks.

1762 (1) – Extra milatry to arabia, Inf: 6
Do a bit of scouting, Washington has 3 Arty, 1 Cav and 5 rifles. Boston 1 Arty, 4 rifles. Seatle 3 rifles.
Gandhi has electricity (10090) to trade, does not have flight (11212), but he will not make the trade. I reduce reaserch to 0 and hope to buy electricity.

IBT – Theebs Inf > Fighter. SS Jail > fighter. Riverside Factroy > Coal plant. Beamsky Christian > Christian. Yaroslav Factroy > Coal plant. Vilcambra Lighthouse > Grannery. Cuzco Inf > fighter.

1764 (2) – Gandhi Gives electricity for Flight + 1140 gold. Change reaserch to Radio (11). Atlanta has 1 arty + 5 rifles. Chicago 3 rifles. New York has a Destroyer, 3 transports (loaded), 10 Cavs, 3 riflemen, 2 arty and a lot more units that I cannot see (I cannot see past the unloaded cavs, and he is sure to have a lot of rifles etc.) Good opportunity for a nuc (if we had them).

I have to get back to work now. I should be able to play again this evening. I was thinking about starting the war, but looking at New York I think we will need significant defence as well as our attack force, so I shall wait a bit.

As far as where to attack, I think the best way would be to take dammasucs (1 turn from our terotory) and then the other one near us so as to reduce the lenght of our front. Then go for washington if we are strong enough.

The other question is weather to go for radio (bombers and Mass media) or industrialism (tanks). I think radio.

Any thoughts wellcome before I play the next few turns.

Save is at http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/ci....Civ4SavedGame if anyone wants a look at it. I should be able to play the rest of my turns this evening or tommorrow morning.

Turn 395, 1760 AD: You have discovered Flight!
Turn 395, 1760 AD: Clam Chowder celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!

Turn 397, 1764 AD: You have discovered Electricity!

grahamiam · 24-07-2006, 17:03

We will be attacking rifles with infantry + cannon. I think we can take on America now. (and we have the added fighters). He'll probably keep at least 3 rifles per city, so I'd only worry about the excess cav's (and our inf should be able to take them out). It'll probably be a bit of back-and-forth for the first few turns, but we should be able to break thru with the fighters.

Samson · 24-07-2006, 19:22

I have just had a look at it, and Rosavelt and cyrus have a Defensive pact. So we shall need significant defence on our west as well as near america. Cyrus is pretty backward but has rifles/cavs/grenades. He is also pretty small. Not much of a threat, but we cannot leave all our core cities with just 1 axeman in them, esp. not on the coast facing Cyrus.

I shall have to spend a bit of time thinking and laying out our forces. I shall probably not get to this untill tommorrow lunchtime now.

21-07-2006, 23:11	#531
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	How long would it take to build the Pentagon? Too long I guess without an Engineer. So, yes a +2 civic would be nice. But either Vassalage or Theocracy is fine (if we agree on going for Judaism, which I don't prefer then Theo is better than OR) Shabba, do you want to finish your turns, I could play tomorrow or on Sunday morning then (grahamiam is away over the weekend)? __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

23-07-2006, 13:53	#532
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	So, if Shabba doesn't want to finish his turns (just post when you want to play on), I'll play later today. Any more thoughts on civics etc? __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

23-07-2006, 23:36	#533
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	I'll play in a few minutes... __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

24-07-2006, 00:11	#534
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	Played my 5 turns: 1752 (1) - Switch to Vassalage. 1760 AD (5) - Roosevelt still doesn't have Assembly Line, so I think we can and should attack him next turn. __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

24-07-2006, 01:50	#535
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	I lost track who is up atm, guess gram or sam? Completed the PA testgame this weekend. In brief it is quite a lengthy procedure because you need to be in either / both (???) a defensive pact or common war to start a PA. Standard map, normal speed, pelago and exaxtly the same civs as in our game. Cathy turned out to be the most likely candidate so efforts were focussed on that. This includes giving in to demands. As soon as PA's appeared on the trade table Cathies opinion was we hadn't been "long enough in a defensive pact or common war" imo the best indication a PA is likely. I would have to check the saves I made but iirc it took about 50 turns from the first defensive pact to the PA at normal game speed. At Epic this most likely will require more turns. So imo domination can achieved faster the aggresive way from where we are now than by prepping for a PA. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

24-07-2006, 13:20	#537
Samson Warlord Join Date: May 2004 Location: . Posts: 397	Got it. Anyone any thoughts on techs? I guess we are going for full war so anything that helps with that would be good. Ther other option would be Mass media. I shall probably aim for radio.

24-07-2006, 14:34	#538
Samson Warlord Join Date: May 2004 Location: . Posts: 397	PFC – Upped reaserch to get flight in 1. milatry available; Inf: 13 cav: 13 Can: 9 Getting there. IBT Flight > Electricity(8). CF Inf > Fighter. CC factory > coal plant. Medina Lib > Barracks. 1762 (1) – Extra milatry to arabia, Inf: 6 Do a bit of scouting, Washington has 3 Arty, 1 Cav and 5 rifles. Boston 1 Arty, 4 rifles. Seatle 3 rifles. Gandhi has electricity (10090) to trade, does not have flight (11212), but he will not make the trade. I reduce reaserch to 0 and hope to buy electricity. IBT – Theebs Inf > Fighter. SS Jail > fighter. Riverside Factroy > Coal plant. Beamsky Christian > Christian. Yaroslav Factroy > Coal plant. Vilcambra Lighthouse > Grannery. Cuzco Inf > fighter. 1764 (2) – Gandhi Gives electricity for Flight + 1140 gold. Change reaserch to Radio (11). Atlanta has 1 arty + 5 rifles. Chicago 3 rifles. New York has a Destroyer, 3 transports (loaded), 10 Cavs, 3 riflemen, 2 arty and a lot more units that I cannot see (I cannot see past the unloaded cavs, and he is sure to have a lot of rifles etc.) Good opportunity for a nuc (if we had them). I have to get back to work now. I should be able to play again this evening. I was thinking about starting the war, but looking at New York I think we will need significant defence as well as our attack force, so I shall wait a bit. As far as where to attack, I think the best way would be to take dammasucs (1 turn from our terotory) and then the other one near us so as to reduce the lenght of our front. Then go for washington if we are strong enough. The other question is weather to go for radio (bombers and Mass media) or industrialism (tanks). I think radio. Any thoughts wellcome before I play the next few turns. Save is at http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/ci....Civ4SavedGame if anyone wants a look at it. I should be able to play the rest of my turns this evening or tommorrow morning. Turn 395, 1760 AD: You have discovered Flight! Turn 395, 1760 AD: Clam Chowder celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!! Turn 397, 1764 AD: You have discovered Electricity!

24-07-2006, 17:03	#539
grahamiam Emperor Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA, East Coast. Posts: 2,673	We will be attacking rifles with infantry + cannon. I think we can take on America now. (and we have the added fighters). He'll probably keep at least 3 rifles per city, so I'd only worry about the excess cav's (and our inf should be able to take them out). It'll probably be a bit of back-and-forth for the first few turns, but we should be able to break thru with the fighters.

24-07-2006, 19:22	#540
Samson Warlord Join Date: May 2004 Location: . Posts: 397	I have just had a look at it, and Rosavelt and cyrus have a Defensive pact. So we shall need significant defence on our west as well as near america. Cyrus is pretty backward but has rifles/cavs/grenades. He is also pretty small. Not much of a threat, but we cannot leave all our core cities with just 1 axeman in them, esp. not on the coast facing Cyrus. I shall have to spend a bit of time thinking and laying out our forces. I shall probably not get to this untill tommorrow lunchtime now.