Announcing Civ4 REALPOLITIK! - Page 4

REALPOLITIK · 08-03-2006, 05:51

Civ4 Realpolitik Thread - CFC Civ4 Multiplayer Section
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153338

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Yes, this was a mistake. I accept that. I also recieved an apology for Padma in regards to that... as she over-reacted greatly.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=157549 (in which you got banned for overadvertising)

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A third RP Post.. again, see above.. and I've respected CFC's decision and have not added to this since I was informed by Thunderfall to keep 1 post.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=155749
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Civ4 PBEM Enhanced. This was the original post, the concept.. but PTBS came out, and I/we changed the name to Realpolitik. So I created the top post to have the right name.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=148702

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So 1 original post, then 1 name change post...

And 2 posts which, yes I agree were over-zealous... I was just quite excited at the response I was getting, that's all

You'll find at this site and any other, 1 thread of RP. I promise

REALPOLITIK · 08-03-2006, 05:59

As for everything else... we'll agree to disagree. Any mature adult will understand that a lot of effort has been put into this. Sure, I wasn't aware of the 'complaint generator' & 'spam' post... and I'm sure it's some kind of personal joke only regular members here understand.

It's funny.. no-one has actually said.. "I've been to EVG, had a look around and this is what I think". You are casting judgement on 1 post... a simplified, condensed post designed to entice people to check out the EVG forums to investigate further.

You've made claims that the DG is far more funny. But have you been to EVG to see the fun we have? I'm not saying 1 or the other IS funnier, I'm just saying you probably have not researched any before you commented.

I'm not here to argue. I'm not here to hear pessimistic comments. Constructive criticism? Sure.. I'd LOVE to improve the game, I always will.

Put it this way. If I posted this, waited a week, and go NO reply... it would've been far more effective. See my point?

Whomp · 08-03-2006, 06:47

Realpolitik I'm not irritated with you and I'm sure you've put a lot of effort into this game. My post was pure spam which is quite reasonable to do around here. This sounds like a fair amount of roleplay but personally I'd rather play a Pitboss game, SG, pbem or as an anarchist in the MTDG OR ISDG so it's not for me. The NES forum at CFC sounds more like your type of people.

Next time though you might want to use the edit key rather than adding 4 posts in a row.

akots · 08-03-2006, 09:01

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quote:http://evo-games.net/Home/viewtopic.php?t=2543&sid=336648dba23b3b947858e1d6c 489ed67

Sorry, could not make it, may be will try again some other day. That is a complicated set of rules you have there. The CFC SP Demogame Constitution is far less complicated although must admit I have not ever read it completely.

Darkness · 08-03-2006, 09:15

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quote:Originally posted by REALPOLITIK

Yes, this was a mistake. I accept that. I also recieved an apology for Padma in regards to that... as she over-reacted greatly.

Unless I am very much mistaken, Padma's a he...

I don't want to sound like I am speaking for all of CDZ here, but AFAIK we're more into the regular Civ games kind of stuff. Most of us here don't like RPG Civgames, so (IMHO) you're wasting your time here (no offense intended!).

Socrates · 08-03-2006, 12:31

There's a consensus here that roleplaying a nation makes you play bad at Civ... That's why we are anarchists in our games, and it serves us well.

I personally think that you need one 'body' for one civ for it to be effective ingame. Said 'body' can be one player or a group of players who have the same purpose : find the best solution together in order to win the game, instead of trying to get positions and win elections.

Ginger_Ale · 08-03-2006, 21:06

Padma is a he, indeed.

We each have our own opinions and I respect that...

REALPOLITIK · 11-03-2006, 00:19

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quote:Originally posted by Whomp

Next time though you might want to use the edit key rather than adding 4 posts in a row.

Is that a forum rule? Coz I was just trying to fit in by being anarchistic :P

REALPOLITIK · 11-03-2006, 00:24

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quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov

Said 'body' can be one player or a group of players who have the same purpose : find the best solution together in order to win the game, instead of trying to get positions and win elections.

Well thats the thing isn't it? A Realpolitik Civ that does well is one who can compromise personal ideas here and there for the Civ, one who is willing to hear all ideas and make the most suitable decision on the whole. In fact, hearing all the inside information and 7 other players strategy meshing together... it's amazing how much I've learned just by playing RP.

On the other hand, a Civ will suffer if there is conflicting personalties, or players who stubbornly see only 1 way. So the point of the game is to play a Civ and WIN. Theres just a few twists that you won't find in any other game

REALPOLITIK · 23-04-2006, 15:30

Civ4 REALPOLITIK 2

Realpolitik
n. [German : real, practical (from Late Latin relis, real. See real1) + Politik, politics (from French politique, political, policy. See politic).]

Politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations.

Realpolitik 2 Launching Soon!

A multiplayer PTBS-based team game where each playing Civ is regarded as a Government, and 4 main Governing Body (GB) members help define co-operatively (or not) the future of their Civilisation.

These people are elected into these positions and hold term for a set amount of time (15 turns). With all of these positions, every important decision relating to the game will be accounted for. Several decisions require a vote, (apart from elections) like war/alliance and city production decisions. But for the most part, each GB member runs fairly automated in their own field, so teamwork and discussion a mutual strategy is key here.

You may also take matters into your own hands, like making secret alliances with players from other Civs! Feed them misinformation and get valuable data about your enemies in return! Or is it ‘valuable’ data?!?!

This truly is a fantastic concept and as the game creator, I never foresaw players could lose sleep over this game… yet they say they do!

Disclaimer:
WARNING! This game burns at a slow pace, while tension builds up at a much faster rate. You will be entering the Civ4 world of politics and must be prepared to deal with all manners of political espionage, intelligence & deceit. Play this game long enough and eventually any other version of Civ, solo or multiplayer, just won't feel the same. You may even begin sleeping with a gun underneath your pillow, check your back every 10 steps while in public, and perhaps be alarmed by the subtle movement of a passer-by... he scratched his nose... does that mean he's 'one our side?'.

Become a fully-fledged Politician! Win an electoral position and strive to keep it! Keep your fellow policitians happy, while keeping the Civilisation moving forward! Look out for backbenchers, they're a part of your Civilisation but do not have a Governing Body position yet... come next election, they may want yours!

The Governing Body (GB)

Leader: The most powerful & influencial member... lead your team to glory, or be the one who’s head everyone will want to start rolling!

Military Commander: Commander of Military Operations, in wartime you lead your soldiers into battle... where you'll either return as a hero, or a shamed loser, ready for resignation.

Infrastructure Advisor: The force ‘behind the scenes’, overseeing matters like City Management, Culture, Happiness, Workers & Trade.

Scientific Advisor: - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. [Arthur C. Clarke]
Make some magic happen.

The Backbench (BB)

Whether you’ve just joined the game, don’t have enough time to commit to RP, or you didn’t win an election spot… don’t worry, you won’t just be benchwarming. New to RP2, 3 Specialist positions available to Backbenchers.

City Governor: Pretty much an Infrastructure Advisor, but for an individual city. Watch out though, too many backbenchers in a Civ, and trying to be the Governor of your Civ’s best city could get just as hard as running for Leader!

Military General: Take command of a small army and benefit from good teamwork and joint-strategies with your Commander.

Foreign Diplomat: Smoke, subterfuge, misinformation, politics, diplomacy, this position is crucial to RP. Who knows, you may just prevent a World War from happening.

Does this game have a limit of players? No!
Is it ever too late to join? No!

The game will launch sometime within the next week. Yes, they're are 4 Civs & 16 Governing Body positions and we already have 20+ players but you may always join a Civ at any time. If we get 25 players we may even have 5 Civs.

So how do I join?

Head on over to Evolution Games, proud home of Realpolitik. Familiarise yourself with the Rules of the Game, found in the Realpolitik main forum at http://evo-games.net/Home/viewforum.php?f=235. There is also plenty of discussion and plenty of help available to new players.

Unless there is an open position in the Governing Body, you will be required to stay on the backbench until the next election, where you may run for a position. But as said before, there is plenty to keep one occupied outside of the GB! And yes, with enough response, we may extend the number of Civ Teams to

So what are you waiting for? Check out our forums, and see just how much so many of us love this game.

Join the REALPOLITIK 2 team in a suspense-filled world of smoke & mirrors, politics, intelligence & espionage... and of course... Civ 4!

08-03-2006, 06:47	#33
Whomp King Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago. Posts: 2,388	Realpolitik I'm not irritated with you and I'm sure you've put a lot of effort into this game. My post was pure spam which is quite reasonable to do around here. This sounds like a fair amount of roleplay but personally I'd rather play a Pitboss game, SG, pbem or as an anarchist in the MTDG OR ISDG so it's not for me. The NES forum at CFC sounds more like your type of people. Next time though you might want to use the edit key rather than adding 4 posts in a row. __________________ If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.--W. C. Fields

08-03-2006, 12:31	#36
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	There's a consensus here that roleplaying a nation makes you play bad at Civ... That's why we are anarchists in our games, and it serves us well. I personally think that you need one 'body' for one civ for it to be effective ingame. Said 'body' can be one player or a group of players who have the same purpose : find the best solution together in order to win the game, instead of trying to get positions and win elections. __________________ Sent from my Debian

08-03-2006, 05:51	#31
REALPOLITIK Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: . Posts: 16	Civ4 Realpolitik Thread - CFC Civ4 Multiplayer Section http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153338 ================================================== ================== Yes, this was a mistake. I accept that. I also recieved an apology for Padma in regards to that... as she over-reacted greatly. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=157549 (in which you got banned for overadvertising) ================================================== ================== A third RP Post.. again, see above.. and I've respected CFC's decision and have not added to this since I was informed by Thunderfall to keep 1 post. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=155749 ================================================== ================== Civ4 PBEM Enhanced. This was the original post, the concept.. but PTBS came out, and I/we changed the name to Realpolitik. So I created the top post to have the right name. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=148702 ================================================== ================== So 1 original post, then 1 name change post... And 2 posts which, yes I agree were over-zealous... I was just quite excited at the response I was getting, that's all You'll find at this site and any other, 1 thread of RP. I promise

08-03-2006, 05:59	#32
REALPOLITIK Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: . Posts: 16	As for everything else... we'll agree to disagree. Any mature adult will understand that a lot of effort has been put into this. Sure, I wasn't aware of the 'complaint generator' & 'spam' post... and I'm sure it's some kind of personal joke only regular members here understand. It's funny.. no-one has actually said.. "I've been to EVG, had a look around and this is what I think". You are casting judgement on 1 post... a simplified, condensed post designed to entice people to check out the EVG forums to investigate further. You've made claims that the DG is far more funny. But have you been to EVG to see the fun we have? I'm not saying 1 or the other IS funnier, I'm just saying you probably have not researched any before you commented. I'm not here to argue. I'm not here to hear pessimistic comments. Constructive criticism? Sure.. I'd LOVE to improve the game, I always will. Put it this way. If I posted this, waited a week, and go NO reply... it would've been far more effective. See my point?

08-03-2006, 21:06	#37
Ginger_Ale Prince Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: America. Posts: 501	Padma is a he, indeed. We each have our own opinions and I respect that...

23-04-2006, 15:30	#40
REALPOLITIK Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: . Posts: 16	Civ4 REALPOLITIK 2 Realpolitik n. [German : real, practical (from Late Latin relis, real. See real1) + Politik, politics (from French politique, political, policy. See politic).] Politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations. Realpolitik 2 Launching Soon! A multiplayer PTBS-based team game where each playing Civ is regarded as a Government, and 4 main Governing Body (GB) members help define co-operatively (or not) the future of their Civilisation. These people are elected into these positions and hold term for a set amount of time (15 turns). With all of these positions, every important decision relating to the game will be accounted for. Several decisions require a vote, (apart from elections) like war/alliance and city production decisions. But for the most part, each GB member runs fairly automated in their own field, so teamwork and discussion a mutual strategy is key here. You may also take matters into your own hands, like making secret alliances with players from other Civs! Feed them misinformation and get valuable data about your enemies in return! Or is it ‘valuable’ data?!?! This truly is a fantastic concept and as the game creator, I never foresaw players could lose sleep over this game… yet they say they do! Disclaimer: WARNING! This game burns at a slow pace, while tension builds up at a much faster rate. You will be entering the Civ4 world of politics and must be prepared to deal with all manners of political espionage, intelligence & deceit. Play this game long enough and eventually any other version of Civ, solo or multiplayer, just won't feel the same. You may even begin sleeping with a gun underneath your pillow, check your back every 10 steps while in public, and perhaps be alarmed by the subtle movement of a passer-by... he scratched his nose... does that mean he's 'one our side?'. Become a fully-fledged Politician! Win an electoral position and strive to keep it! Keep your fellow policitians happy, while keeping the Civilisation moving forward! Look out for backbenchers, they're a part of your Civilisation but do not have a Governing Body position yet... come next election, they may want yours! The Governing Body (GB) Leader: The most powerful & influencial member... lead your team to glory, or be the one who’s head everyone will want to start rolling! Military Commander: Commander of Military Operations, in wartime you lead your soldiers into battle... where you'll either return as a hero, or a shamed loser, ready for resignation. Infrastructure Advisor: The force ‘behind the scenes’, overseeing matters like City Management, Culture, Happiness, Workers & Trade. Scientific Advisor: - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. [Arthur C. Clarke] Make some magic happen. The Backbench (BB) Whether you’ve just joined the game, don’t have enough time to commit to RP, or you didn’t win an election spot… don’t worry, you won’t just be benchwarming. New to RP2, 3 Specialist positions available to Backbenchers. City Governor: Pretty much an Infrastructure Advisor, but for an individual city. Watch out though, too many backbenchers in a Civ, and trying to be the Governor of your Civ’s best city could get just as hard as running for Leader! Military General: Take command of a small army and benefit from good teamwork and joint-strategies with your Commander. Foreign Diplomat: Smoke, subterfuge, misinformation, politics, diplomacy, this position is crucial to RP. Who knows, you may just prevent a World War from happening. Does this game have a limit of players? No! Is it ever too late to join? No! The game will launch sometime within the next week. Yes, they're are 4 Civs & 16 Governing Body positions and we already have 20+ players but you may always join a Civ at any time. If we get 25 players we may even have 5 Civs. So how do I join? Head on over to Evolution Games, proud home of Realpolitik. Familiarise yourself with the Rules of the Game, found in the Realpolitik main forum at http://evo-games.net/Home/viewforum.php?f=235. There is also plenty of discussion and plenty of help available to new players. Unless there is an open position in the Governing Body, you will be required to stay on the backbench until the next election, where you may run for a position. But as said before, there is plenty to keep one occupied outside of the GB! And yes, with enough response, we may extend the number of Civ Teams to So what are you waiting for? Check out our forums, and see just how much so many of us love this game. Join the REALPOLITIK 2 team in a suspense-filled world of smoke & mirrors, politics, intelligence & espionage... and of course... Civ 4!