The Dented Slides - Page 4

Mistfit · 05-01-2006, 14:13

There is no Autopromotion from Division VI in the US. You would need to win a qualification match to get there. In my Division VI.180 the same guy has won the division both seasons I've been playing and he is still here

btw... stop by the Logo Resquest area and give me some ideas for a team logo now that you area a supporter.

Kemal · 05-01-2006, 14:35

You can still autopromote even in leagues where qualifiers are played, if you have enough points to be part of the top half of the teams that could promote based on where they finished in the league. Most people though prefer to be part of the bottom half and actively lose matches to play a qualifier, yet remain in the division they are already in, thus having yet another easy season full of victories -> full stadiums.

Imvho, it is questionable behaviour... then again, as bed head indicated, the difference in league strengths can be a good reason to delay promotion for a while, after all nobody likes to be obliterated each week for a full season only to end up in the 6th again.

Dell19 · 05-01-2006, 16:03

There is a guy on the English conference who regularily gets slated for constantly throwing qualifiers to remain in an easy league. He then boasts about all his VI and V medals whilst offering a game with a 5 hatstats deficit as a game where he has won a match through better tactics.

bed_head7 · 05-01-2006, 20:47

I am not doing anything like that. I won by virtue of good TS management, some good exploitation of weak wing defense, and a lot of luck. There were two teams in my league that averaged over the season higher hatstats, and all but one of the teams in my league have been around longer than I have. This means that my stadium is actually the smallest one at this point (though that will soon change, once I make some sales from skill trading in the next few weeks) as team newer than mine got two youth pulls back in October that sold for over a million dollars combined. My finishing below the autopromotion line while still winning was certainly a goal of mine at the beginning of last season and still is this season, but I won't have to throw any matches to get it done.

bed_head7 · 06-01-2006, 10:43

I was looking for an article that was in Between the Lines a couple of months ago on special event goals, but could not find it, so I though I would ask here. Are there any positives in having Unpredictable defenders? And does playing creatively affect the number of corner kicks or what could happen in corner kicks? I have three players with Head specialty in my lineup, so I am hoping creative play would help, but it doesn't really make sense that it would.

On an unrelated note, does anyone know how long arena construction takes? I don't really have much money at the moment, but I should make about $350-400k next week, so I am thinking of spending a fair amount of that on an arena upgrade. But if construction would finish after my cup match, improving it now will only mean higher upkeep costs for this week and less money in the bank, and I am also going to be in the market for a new 17yo trainee in the next week or so when one of my older guys pops.

Kemal · 06-01-2006, 10:55

Unpred defenders with sufficient amount of passing can give a positive SE creating a chance for another player. However, they can also create negative SE due to having insufficient defending.

Since playing creative increases the chances of SEs happening, it would also increase the chance of getting a corner, since corners are SEs too. I think a head specialist alone cannot create any chances by himself, though (except negative SE when he faces a technical player). It's my opinion that he can only help to score other SEs (winger/corner) and defend against corner SEs your opponent gets. These special events themselves are created by wingers and set pieces skill though, or so I believe.

Not sure on stadium construction, I think it is about 10 days or so.

Dell19 · 06-01-2006, 11:01

Stadium construction varies and can take about 14 days to complete in a worst case.

bed_head7 · 06-01-2006, 21:19

Thanks for the answers. I guess I will wait a little bit on the stadium expansion then. I probably won't start selling out (well, the first league match and the cup match probably will, but it is too late for that) until five or six weeks into the season. But with a fan club of 820 that is still growing about 25 a week, I definitely need to expand beyond the original 12,000.

bed_head7 · 20-01-2006, 03:57

I have a 20yo excellent stamina formidable playmaker. I know that that the jump to outstanding brings in more money, but he is old (the last remnant of my original training program which started with marginal players). Should I train him one more level (which would take most of the rest of the season) or sell him now?

socralynnek · 20-01-2006, 08:58

For me, a player at 20 is not too old to train.
I sell my playmakers at 22 and so they are very strong and improving my team in the mean time.
If you don't need the money now, don't sell him.

05-01-2006, 14:13	#31
Mistfit King Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: idunno. Posts: 2,428	There is no Autopromotion from Division VI in the US. You would need to win a qualification match to get there. In my Division VI.180 the same guy has won the division both seasons I've been playing and he is still here btw... stop by the Logo Resquest area and give me some ideas for a team logo now that you area a supporter. __________________ Stumbling from pillar to post...

05-01-2006, 14:35	#32
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	You can still autopromote even in leagues where qualifiers are played, if you have enough points to be part of the top half of the teams that could promote based on where they finished in the league. Most people though prefer to be part of the bottom half and actively lose matches to play a qualifier, yet remain in the division they are already in, thus having yet another easy season full of victories -> full stadiums. Imvho, it is questionable behaviour... then again, as bed head indicated, the difference in league strengths can be a good reason to delay promotion for a while, after all nobody likes to be obliterated each week for a full season only to end up in the 6th again. __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

06-01-2006, 10:55	#36
Kemal Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,108	Unpred defenders with sufficient amount of passing can give a positive SE creating a chance for another player. However, they can also create negative SE due to having insufficient defending. Since playing creative increases the chances of SEs happening, it would also increase the chance of getting a corner, since corners are SEs too. I think a head specialist alone cannot create any chances by himself, though (except negative SE when he faces a technical player). It's my opinion that he can only help to score other SEs (winger/corner) and defend against corner SEs your opponent gets. These special events themselves are created by wingers and set pieces skill though, or so I believe. Not sure on stadium construction, I think it is about 10 days or so. __________________ <b>\"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die\" </b>

20-01-2006, 08:58	#40
socralynnek Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USS Defiant Posts: 3,827	For me, a player at 20 is not too old to train. I sell my playmakers at 22 and so they are very strong and improving my team in the mean time. If you don't need the money now, don't sell him. __________________ Being without a signature since November 2004.

05-01-2006, 16:03	#33
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	There is a guy on the English conference who regularily gets slated for constantly throwing qualifiers to remain in an easy league. He then boasts about all his VI and V medals whilst offering a game with a 5 hatstats deficit as a game where he has won a match through better tactics.

05-01-2006, 20:47	#34
bed_head7 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: . Posts: 545	I am not doing anything like that. I won by virtue of good TS management, some good exploitation of weak wing defense, and a lot of luck. There were two teams in my league that averaged over the season higher hatstats, and all but one of the teams in my league have been around longer than I have. This means that my stadium is actually the smallest one at this point (though that will soon change, once I make some sales from skill trading in the next few weeks) as team newer than mine got two youth pulls back in October that sold for over a million dollars combined. My finishing below the autopromotion line while still winning was certainly a goal of mine at the beginning of last season and still is this season, but I won't have to throw any matches to get it done.

06-01-2006, 10:43	#35
bed_head7 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: . Posts: 545	I was looking for an article that was in Between the Lines a couple of months ago on special event goals, but could not find it, so I though I would ask here. Are there any positives in having Unpredictable defenders? And does playing creatively affect the number of corner kicks or what could happen in corner kicks? I have three players with Head specialty in my lineup, so I am hoping creative play would help, but it doesn't really make sense that it would. On an unrelated note, does anyone know how long arena construction takes? I don't really have much money at the moment, but I should make about $350-400k next week, so I am thinking of spending a fair amount of that on an arena upgrade. But if construction would finish after my cup match, improving it now will only mean higher upkeep costs for this week and less money in the bank, and I am also going to be in the market for a new 17yo trainee in the next week or so when one of my older guys pops.

06-01-2006, 11:01	#37
Dell19 King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grantham. Posts: 1,359	Stadium construction varies and can take about 14 days to complete in a worst case.

06-01-2006, 21:19	#38
bed_head7 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: . Posts: 545	Thanks for the answers. I guess I will wait a little bit on the stadium expansion then. I probably won't start selling out (well, the first league match and the cup match probably will, but it is too late for that) until five or six weeks into the season. But with a fan club of 820 that is still growing about 25 a week, I definitely need to expand beyond the original 12,000.

20-01-2006, 03:57	#39
bed_head7 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: . Posts: 545	I have a 20yo excellent stamina formidable playmaker. I know that that the jump to outstanding brings in more money, but he is old (the last remnant of my original training program which started with marginal players). Should I train him one more level (which would take most of the rest of the season) or sell him now?