A big nail in the Windoze coffin - Page 4

Beam · 08-02-2007, 22:24

Good you made progress but this is pretty weird. Maybe look at the forums and hopefully somebody had the same prob and solved it.

Socrates · 14-02-2007, 17:25

After a quick checking on the Internet, I saw that my monitor can only do 60 Hz at 1280*1024. So I think I'll have to stay at 1024*780 @ 85 Hz.

Is there anything else to do, Beam ? Can't remember everything you told me in Den Haag.

Melifluous · 14-02-2007, 18:39

So basically you can have the game running properly apart from the fact that the fog of war doesn't cover the terrain, it merely makes trees and river look black.

Damn this is damned close...

Socrates · 14-02-2007, 19:27

Yeah this is about the tiny gap I have to cross in order to say Goodbye to Mr. Gates. If I succeed, I'll start to run everything in Linux, migrate the needed data (fortunately, I have a few PCs at home, so as to temporarily store data inbetween), and see if I really can run my machine without Windows. If this is OK, then I'll probably erase my HD entirely, and install Linux as my only OS.

Beam · 14-02-2007, 21:02

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quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov

After a quick checking on the Internet, I saw that my monitor can only do 60 Hz at 1280*1024. So I think I'll have to stay at 1024*780 @ 85 Hz.

Is there anything else to do, Beam ? Can't remember everything you told me in Den Haag.

Install Automatix. With it you can install very recent video drivers and a lot of other good stuff without a hassle. Contains much more than Easy Ubuntu.

Also make sure you have the graphics settings in Civ IV all on low. That saves me from the crashes and freezes reported earlier (besides the solutions I found on Transgaming Cedega). Are you on the latest Cedega versions already? Then I read on Transgaming some ppl got better results playing with the settings related to the ARB_VBO Extension.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Edit: I assume you are on 1.6.1 ?

Socrates · 14-02-2007, 22:32

I installed Automatix2, but it told me I had the correct nVidia driver installed, and that I shouldn't overwrite it.

I have every gfx option on "low".

I tried the different settings with the "Dynamic VBO" and "Index VBO" options, but with no success.

I'm on Civ4 1.61 of course, I'm a hardcore Civver.

My current Cedega version is 5.2.6. Maybe I should get the 5.2.10 ?

Beam · 14-02-2007, 23:03

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quote:Originally posted by kryszcztov

My current Cedega version is 5.2.6. Maybe I should get the 5.2.10 ?

Ya should, why didn't you do already? Afaik use Transgaming > Check for Updates in the Cedega Menu. They solved couple of graphics issues in this version and the only way to find if they work for you is try it out. It worked for me.

Socrates · 14-02-2007, 23:34

So I've just downloaded the 5.2.10 version, using some deodorant.

It didn't solved my problem. Too bad, as the 5.2.8 version focused on Civ4 amongst other games.

Also, how did you get rid of that other window that you can see in the bottom menu ? (can't remember what you told me, gaaah !)

Beam · 14-02-2007, 23:46

You must've been drinking a lot in The Hague krys. That window iirc is the check-cd window and I've also said some about that. Something related to how sw is sold in Russia. Use your brain and search skills and you'll get that part resolved.

Socrates · 15-02-2007, 01:30

Ah yes, I remember now. And I think I smell a little under my clothes... You know, I must have a bad memory, because I really didn't drink much there ; at least I've never felt the starting point of being a little drunk. I just remembered I had like 3 things to check, one of them being the xconf file (easy, it's in this thread).

But all of this is pretty useless to me now. Cedega-Civ4 isn't working properly with my hardware. I'm stopping my experimentation, because I think there's nothing to do about it unless some new software is released (and I doubt it'll change anything with Cedega). Which means dual boot.

But there is always hope. There is this software called VMware, which is proprietary, but has a free (as in beer and as in speech) version. It is a virtualisation software, allowing you to use Windows XP SP2 as a guest on your Ubuntu distro as a host, for example. And they're starting to make progress in the 3D area. I'll keep an eye on this.

Another thing to check : Virtual Box. This is a free software which does about the same thing. They're late behing VMware, but there is potential. No 3D for the moment, but usual Windows softwares are emulated even faster than with VMware.

That's it for the moment.

08-02-2007, 22:24	#31
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Good you made progress but this is pretty weird. Maybe look at the forums and hopefully somebody had the same prob and solved it. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

14-02-2007, 17:25	#32
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	After a quick checking on the Internet, I saw that my monitor can only do 60 Hz at 12801024. So I think I'll have to stay at 1024780 @ 85 Hz. Is there anything else to do, Beam ? Can't remember everything you told me in Den Haag. __________________ Sent from my Debian

14-02-2007, 18:39	#33
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	So basically you can have the game running properly apart from the fact that the fog of war doesn't cover the terrain, it merely makes trees and river look black. Damn this is damned close... __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

14-02-2007, 19:27	#34
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	Yeah this is about the tiny gap I have to cross in order to say Goodbye to Mr. Gates. If I succeed, I'll start to run everything in Linux, migrate the needed data (fortunately, I have a few PCs at home, so as to temporarily store data inbetween), and see if I really can run my machine without Windows. If this is OK, then I'll probably erase my HD entirely, and install Linux as my only OS. __________________ Sent from my Debian

14-02-2007, 22:32	#36
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	I installed Automatix2, but it told me I had the correct nVidia driver installed, and that I shouldn't overwrite it. I have every gfx option on "low". I tried the different settings with the "Dynamic VBO" and "Index VBO" options, but with no success. I'm on Civ4 1.61 of course, I'm a hardcore Civver. My current Cedega version is 5.2.6. Maybe I should get the 5.2.10 ? __________________ Sent from my Debian

14-02-2007, 23:34	#38
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	So I've just downloaded the 5.2.10 version, using some deodorant. It didn't solved my problem. Too bad, as the 5.2.8 version focused on Civ4 amongst other games. Also, how did you get rid of that other window that you can see in the bottom menu ? (can't remember what you told me, gaaah !) __________________ Sent from my Debian

14-02-2007, 23:46	#39
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	You must've been drinking a lot in The Hague krys. That window iirc is the check-cd window and I've also said some about that. Something related to how sw is sold in Russia. Use your brain and search skills and you'll get that part resolved. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

15-02-2007, 01:30	#40
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	Ah yes, I remember now. And I think I smell a little under my clothes... You know, I must have a bad memory, because I really didn't drink much there ; at least I've never felt the starting point of being a little drunk. I just remembered I had like 3 things to check, one of them being the xconf file (easy, it's in this thread). But all of this is pretty useless to me now. Cedega-Civ4 isn't working properly with my hardware. I'm stopping my experimentation, because I think there's nothing to do about it unless some new software is released (and I doubt it'll change anything with Cedega). Which means dual boot. But there is always hope. There is this software called VMware, which is proprietary, but has a free (as in beer and as in speech) version. It is a virtualisation software, allowing you to use Windows XP SP2 as a guest on your Ubuntu distro as a host, for example. And they're starting to make progress in the 3D area. I'll keep an eye on this. Another thing to check : Virtual Box. This is a free software which does about the same thing. They're late behing VMware, but there is potential. No 3D for the moment, but usual Windows softwares are emulated even faster than with VMware. That's it for the moment. __________________ Sent from my Debian