Monster Map C3C version - Page 34

Aggie · 03-04-2004, 13:10

Well, we should have more settlers for denial purposes. It might not be good to have limited space between cities, but denying the AI to have new cities is worth a lot as well. We can always disband cities we think are terribly placed. That way we can grow and grow while the AI civs all get smaller and smaller.

Beam · 03-04-2004, 13:24

I will go to my last IT any minute now. Anar, you can take it from there.

I thought it useless to build a city on that S tip so the settler is moving to Delft now.

The pic was taken before readjusting to starvation.

And yes, we might only want to risk another attack if it is very secure.

Beam · 03-04-2004, 13:40

Hm, can't upload now. 500AD sav to Anar by e-mail. Note, this sav is as coming out of IT.

Aggie · 03-04-2004, 13:55

Beam, you also can't upload via CFC? In any case: could I have a copy as well?

Beam · 03-04-2004, 14:01

Worked this time, anar: different name, exactly the same file:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Monster500AD.SAV

anarres · 03-04-2004, 16:59

First turn report!

500AD:

Sell PP to India for 16gpt and 10 gold.
Buy Mil Trad (and 4 gold) from Portugal for 80gpt.

Turn lux down from 40% to 30%, with no mm'ing needed. This is worth 80gpt. It appears that we haven't been stripping worker off size 12 cities with a food surplus. We are also irrigating grass tiles on size 12 cities with a high food surplus. This is all small stuff, but it soon adds up! Oh, I also found a city building Cav with no barracks...

Since Zohak isn't coastal (1 tile away

) there is no question we will abandon it at some point. Because of this I sell the Courthouse, and I change the build from Temple to settler. Next turn when it is safe I will sell the Market too.

BTW - Eindhoven is very badly placed! It has no land tiles that are not under another cities 21. I would suggest abandoning this when we expand more to the west.

Of course for all cities we abandon we should have a settler in place where we want a city so we can abandon-found in the same turn.

I change some Temple builds to Libraries. Since happiness isn't so urgent in these cities I decide to pay the extra 20 shields and get some extra science.

I get about 110 gold from Portugal at 18 gold per 1 gpt. I also sold very old techs to backwards civs for almost no money. 25 Knights get upgraded, the rest will follow next turn.

We need to research Astronomy now, but 3 AI's have it and I want to buy it rather than research it directly. The Iro's are the only civ with Astronomy who lack Mil Trad, and they're not gonna get that from us yet!

Stapel · 03-04-2004, 17:04

Either Eindhoven or Maastricht is settled on a gold hill. Which one?

anarres · 03-04-2004, 17:09

Eindhoven is, but it gives all our (soon to be) western cities higher rank and has very little producion or expansion.

Aggie · 03-04-2004, 17:15

Should we make a dot map of a future empire? Than we can discuss and decide what has to go

Stapel · 04-04-2004, 11:26

Eindhoven is pretty far from Amsterdam..... Which (soon to be) cities will be ranked up?

03-04-2004, 13:24	#332
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	I will go to my last IT any minute now. Anar, you can take it from there. I thought it useless to build a city on that S tip so the settler is moving to Delft now. The pic was taken before readjusting to starvation. And yes, we might only want to risk another attack if it is very secure. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

03-04-2004, 13:40	#333
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Hm, can't upload now. 500AD sav to Anar by e-mail. Note, this sav is as coming out of IT. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

03-04-2004, 14:01	#335
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Worked this time, anar: different name, exactly the same file: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Monster500AD.SAV __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

03-04-2004, 16:59	#336
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	First turn report! 500AD: Sell PP to India for 16gpt and 10 gold. Buy Mil Trad (and 4 gold) from Portugal for 80gpt. Turn lux down from 40% to 30%, with no mm'ing needed. This is worth 80gpt. It appears that we haven't been stripping worker off size 12 cities with a food surplus. We are also irrigating grass tiles on size 12 cities with a high food surplus. This is all small stuff, but it soon adds up! Oh, I also found a city building Cav with no barracks... Since Zohak isn't coastal (1 tile away ) there is no question we will abandon it at some point. Because of this I sell the Courthouse, and I change the build from Temple to settler. Next turn when it is safe I will sell the Market too. BTW - Eindhoven is very badly placed! It has no land tiles that are not under another cities 21. I would suggest abandoning this when we expand more to the west. Of course for all cities we abandon we should have a settler in place where we want a city so we can abandon-found in the same turn. I change some Temple builds to Libraries. Since happiness isn't so urgent in these cities I decide to pay the extra 20 shields and get some extra science. I get about 110 gold from Portugal at 18 gold per 1 gpt. I also sold very old techs to backwards civs for almost no money. 25 Knights get upgraded, the rest will follow next turn. We need to research Astronomy now, but 3 AI's have it and I want to buy it rather than research it directly. The Iro's are the only civ with Astronomy who lack Mil Trad, and they're not gonna get that from us yet! __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

03-04-2004, 17:04	#337
Stapel Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,196	Either Eindhoven or Maastricht is settled on a gold hill. Which one? __________________ Vrooooooooooommmmmm Stapel doesn't like cricket

03-04-2004, 13:10	#331
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Well, we should have more settlers for denial purposes. It might not be good to have limited space between cities, but denying the AI to have new cities is worth a lot as well. We can always disband cities we think are terribly placed. That way we can grow and grow while the AI civs all get smaller and smaller.

03-04-2004, 13:55	#334
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Beam, you also can't upload via CFC? In any case: could I have a copy as well?

03-04-2004, 17:09	#338
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	Eindhoven is, but it gives all our (soon to be) western cities higher rank and has very little producion or expansion. __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

03-04-2004, 17:15	#339
Aggie Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: N/A Posts: 4,490	Should we make a dot map of a future empire? Than we can discuss and decide what has to go

04-04-2004, 11:26	#340
Stapel Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,196	Eindhoven is pretty far from Amsterdam..... Which (soon to be) cities will be ranked up? __________________ Vrooooooooooommmmmm Stapel doesn't like cricket