Inner workings of the military advisor (F3 screen) - Page 2

Beam · 31-03-2004, 13:05

That is some great analysis PP! Did you also plan to find a relation with the powergraph in F8? On more than one occasion I found that while being weak in F3 my powergraph in F8 looked very healthy.

On the cheating: any means of getting information by irreversably changing the state of the game, then reloading in the original state is cheating. Compare investigate cities, moving units to see terrain while losing movement points.

Matrix · 06-04-2004, 21:50

Wauw. Superb job, ProPain!

ProPain · 06-04-2004, 22:08

Turned out Oystein did a similar research on CFC, I looked for this on CFC but apparently missed it. He had some good remarks and improvements I need to add.

yndy · 07-04-2004, 05:19

Yeah, I remembered his article, but yours seems more clear. Don't know why, maybe newer?

Hygro · 23-04-2004, 02:58

This is really valuable information. Thanks, guys.

ProPain · 23-04-2004, 10:28

Made 2 adjustments and 1 addition after I got some very good feedback from Oystein.

- adjusted interval that determines weak vs strong
- adjusted bombard ratio
- added 2 starting points

Socrates · 29-04-2004, 18:36

I'm trying to understand the conclusion, but something bugs me.

First :
Units Strength (player 1) = Hitpoints * (1.5* AttackPoints + 1 * DefensePoints ) 0.5 * Bombard Points
Is there a "+" before "0.5" ?

Second :
Army Strength (player 1) = Sigma(1-n) Unit Strength (player 1)
What is "Sigma(1-n)" ? I can't find its explanation, and BTW is it multiplied by "Unit Strength" ?

After knowing this, I think I'll start to make little calculations in my games, just for fun.

col · 29-04-2004, 19:20

I'd guess Sigma (1-n) means add up all the individual unit strengths to find the total army strength.

Socrates · 29-04-2004, 19:45

LOL. Thanks col ! I could only think of the little sigma letter, which didn't help me. I don't know why it didn't occur to me that this sigma was the capital letter for the math sum... OK, and if you can put "+" where I said, or maybe I didn't understand it either ?

ProPain · 29-04-2004, 20:58

Beam is right on sigma. Capital sigma is not available in the original greek form, so I solved it this way.

And yes, there's a + missing.

31-03-2004, 13:05	#11
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	That is some great analysis PP! Did you also plan to find a relation with the powergraph in F8? On more than one occasion I found that while being weak in F3 my powergraph in F8 looked very healthy. On the cheating: any means of getting information by irreversably changing the state of the game, then reloading in the original state is cheating. Compare investigate cities, moving units to see terrain while losing movement points. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

06-04-2004, 21:50	#12
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	Wauw. Superb job, ProPain! __________________

06-04-2004, 22:08	#13
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Turned out Oystein did a similar research on CFC, I looked for this on CFC but apparently missed it. He had some good remarks and improvements I need to add. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

07-04-2004, 05:19	#14
yndy Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania. Posts: 895	Yeah, I remembered his article, but yours seems more clear. Don't know why, maybe newer? __________________ The one and only

23-04-2004, 10:28	#16
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Made 2 adjustments and 1 addition after I got some very good feedback from Oystein. - adjusted interval that determines weak vs strong - adjusted bombard ratio - added 2 starting points __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

23-04-2004, 02:58	#15
Hygro Chieftain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Berkeley California Posts: 77	This is really valuable information. Thanks, guys.

29-04-2004, 18:36	#17
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	I'm trying to understand the conclusion, but something bugs me. First : Units Strength (player 1) = Hitpoints (1.5* AttackPoints + 1 * DefensePoints ) 0.5 * Bombard Points* Is there a "+" before "0.5" ? Second : Army Strength (player 1) = Sigma(1-n) Unit Strength (player 1) What is "Sigma(1-n)" ? I can't find its explanation, and BTW is it multiplied by "Unit Strength" ? After knowing this, I think I'll start to make little calculations in my games, just for fun. __________________ Sent from my Debian

29-04-2004, 19:20	#18
col King Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Sandwich Islands. Posts: 1,529	I'd guess Sigma (1-n) means add up all the individual unit strengths to find the total army strength. __________________ I can't be arsed.

29-04-2004, 19:45	#19
Socrates Emperor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,946	LOL. Thanks col ! I could only think of the little sigma letter, which didn't help me. I don't know why it didn't occur to me that this sigma was the capital letter for the math sum... OK, and if you can put "+" where I said, or maybe I didn't understand it either ? __________________ Sent from my Debian

29-04-2004, 20:58	#20
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	Beam is right on sigma. Capital sigma is not available in the original greek form, so I solved it this way. And yes, there's a + missing. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah