Deathmatch IV - Discussion Thread

[Beam]

akots, any change we can resume soon?

[Dell19]

Any news?

[akots]

Well, I took a second long look at the save and still have not played. You both do realize what you are doing? Just to make sure. This is supposed to be an exploit under the UN rules. Which indeed it is from my pow.

I do also realize you are depriving yoursleves from required essintial trade for 2 turns apparently causing some other minor inconveniences as well. I'm still undecided on what to do however. Any suggestions? I'd still prefer you disband that arty, Dell19. But if you insist on keeping it, that just makes life somewhat complicated.

[Beam]

akots, please check PM

[akots]

OK, to clear the thing up. This rule regarding arty:

quote:In-Game Glitches/Bugs/Exploits
1.1 - Double-Duty Exploit
Description: No team or individual is permitted to 'allow' the capture of their bombardment or workers with the intent of executing a double-duty exploit.
Definition: Two or more teams capturing and recapturing non-combat units (Including bombardment units) with the intent to use them against a third party team simultaneously.
Purpose: To prevent two or more teams from sharing units and their abilities in the same turn for multiple turns.
Verdict: Using this exploit or any other exploit that allows Double-Duty through any means is a violation of this rule.

It had been moved twice which is double-duty.

[Beam]

Sorry to say but afaik we never agreed to play with the UN rules, instead the closest thing said about the rules is:

quote:Been a little as well if we need specific rules discussions. Since all of us are CDZ regulars we all are pretty familiar with the going here and in all of the one or more PBEMs I've played with you here I never saw a reason to assume one of us doesn't know the drill here. Also see matrix' most recent thread about what is / isn't "done". Instead, let's discuss very specific topics here, or (if it is a very tactical situation) address it in your spoiler.

So atm I do not see how you can claim Dell or me have to disband any of those arties.

Since I do not want to spoil the fun in this game however I propose to solve this according to an alternative method I could have saved the majority of the Arty stack, i.e. by using some of the captured arties to disconnect the Mountain E of Palmyra. 3 could have done that job with a 100% hitrate, say 5 in reality. I'm prepared to send those 5 back to Roman territory after I take them back from Dell in-game. Dell would not have to capture the arties in this alternative method in the first place.

This would also mean a "de-facto" acceptation that capture-recapture of any unit is not allowed in this game, not that we play according to the UN rules imo. We got brains etc. enough to do better than that.

[akots]

IMHO, actually, this is one of a few UN rules which make sense. Well, good to see the understanding. I'm just not into this stuff. Had enough of it in GOTMs.

There is a fortified flak to be redlined first (defence 6 + barricade + mountain) on that tile (mountain E of Palmyra) and barricade which has to go first before railroad and then road. I'd say 7 arty units would be sufficient at around 70-80% probability hit.

If you can please send these 7 arties to where your marine is standing and that would be the end of this discussion.

[Beam]

Since I want to get the game moving again we settle at 6 arties, OK?

[Dell19]

I wasn't aware of any rules although the bombardment rule does make sense.

[akots]

quote:Originally posted by Beam

Since I want to get the game moving again we settle at 6 arties, OK?

Ok, agreed.