Europa Universalis III

Melifluous · 03-10-2012, 09:50

OK,

Starting a new game, England, 1399.

Stability slider full right and troops started in overseas states. Merchants sent to core and some stability advisors hired.

Unpause.

I get the conquer Ireland mission, seems like as good a start as any. Build up some troops and push into Ireland.

Or try to.

Spend 10 minutes trying to work out how to get troops into a boat, before working out that transports work as a kind of bridge and have to be in open water before you can move troops to them.

Anyways. Will cut a long story short. I occupy all 4 Irish provinces with troops and siege their forts.

I beat all forts and then wonder if I really need to wait 50 years to gain the province... More scratching of heads.

I get offered lots of peace requests from Irish provinces but unsure whether they'll give me their province (they seem to involve me paying them!) I decline all.

In a moment of inspiration I look at offering them peace and see a nice shiny option called Annex. Swiftly pushing on I take the whole of Ireland, go Team!

An un-pause later and I win my first mission. Prestige is getting high, I'm number 1 in the world

Infamy is just over 7, apparently my reputation is tarnished.

Next mission, Scotland! Thankfully they're not allied with France anymore (not sure when that stopped) and sometime during the fight with Ireland I allied with Burgundy. I keep getting peace requests from some places in Europe, I decline them all, will wait until Burgundy stops fighting them before I peace up.

I move my army across from Ireland to Scotland and kill the Scottish army. I move troops to all provinces and lay siege to their forts.

Then I had to get off the train in London for work today, so that's it for now.

I checked my ledger just now.
It's November 1402.
I have 7.5 Infamy (3rd biggest badass!

)
I have 97 Prestige (No.1 baby

)
Stability is 3

Shabbaman · 03-10-2012, 10:10

What difficulty level? Also, infamy 7 is peanuts, I'm over 40. Tends to screw with merchant compete chances though...

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Originally Posted by Melifluous

I beat all forts and then wonder if I really need to wait 50 years to gain the province... More scratching of heads.

I had the same problem when someone stole the Azores from me. Apparently you can annex colonies outside peace negotiations.

Melifluous · 03-10-2012, 10:16

I couldn't see where to change the difficulty level, so I guess I'm playing Normal.

Where would you go in the interface to annex something outside of peace?

Shabbaman · 03-10-2012, 10:20

If you capture a colony that isn't autonomous, the "scorch the earth" button (in the army box) changes to "seize colony". This is especially useful when you're invading America, since a lot of the indian lands are basically colonies.

Also, I noticed you're playing HTTTTTTTT, not Divine Wind. Why?

Melifluous · 03-10-2012, 10:42

Cos I bought the Complete Pack to start with, then bought the upgrade the HttT.

Is it worth the upgrade again to DW?

Shabbaman · 03-10-2012, 11:01

I don't know actually. Maybe when it's on a discount. See the differences, unless you want to play Japan or China it seems like minor tweaks. It's worth keeping in mind that a lot of costs and benefits are different between HTTT and DW though.

Funny, one of the changes concerns Personal Unions. Getting a PU isn't that difficult, but getting something out of it is. I got into a PU with three province Brabant, and because I was bored I integrated it (which is a feature of DW) into the evil french empire. Now I read that I should've waited until I inherited that lousy part of Europe, because then I'd have gotten cores on those provinces. Now all I have are rebels (good for army tradition).

ProPain · 08-10-2012, 16:48

I have taken up Mel's challenge and started playing Brabant with the goal of forming the Netherlands. This is hard. Brabant is supposed to be medium difficulty level, I'll steer clear from hard for a long while then.

After a few test games I quickly learned you can't just conquer and annex your way into supremacy like you can with Castille. The game i played for 75 years now started with Burgundy declaring war on me right from the get go. I had to scramble allies whereever I could and play ring around the rosie for quite a while to avoid having my army annihilated. Eventually I made my way to Burgundy and bordering provinces while my allies entertained Burgundies main army. Even after I conquered all provinces burgundy refused any decent peace and they where to large to annex. FInally ended up with Flanders, 2 other useless provinces near burgundies capital, 5 loans and a ruined economy. Great.

After a few years the emperor starts demanding I liberate my newly acquired provinces. Even better. I'm now in a PU with HOlland, have flanders and Cleve vassalised and Zeeland annexed. Utrecht is gonna be a pain, they have allies and independence garantuees coming out of their ears.

Melifluous · 16-10-2012, 16:42

OK EU3 is officially my most favourite game ever

I decided to try some games on Very Easy. Lame but true.

Currently enjoying a fantastic romp as the Scottish, just about managed to completely take over the English and remove them from the game.

Managed to get my Infamy to 90 I think it was (when my Inf Cap was around 55!).

Everyone really really hates me

Rebellions and revolts popping up all over the place. Stability up and down like a yo-yo and magistrates and generals defecting.

Managed to repel a mass invasion of France, Castille and Portugal Allied with the revolts popping up all over England and Ireland.

Have released everyone (Wales, Cornwall and the Irish states) as Vassals to try and reduce the Infamy and have had my country collapse once (which seems to do nothing much? Might have screwed my Legitimacy but that was screwed anyway)

Oh and at my worst point and highest infamy I suddenly got made the Papal Controller, that made me laugh

Yee-haw 40 years until I core central England and make Great Britain as the Scots (thanks for the idea Shabba!).

Just have to see if I can survive that long as revolts of 24,000 men are not funny...

PS. Fun fact, declare war on the English and you often get an event happen called The Highlanders Arrive an extra 12,000 troops you say? Yummy. Also Resist the English Double Forcelimit modifier and Double the manpower? Someone really didn't like England in the 15th Century

Shabbaman · 16-10-2012, 18:12

OK, I'll play Scotland next. Or Ireland.

Kingreno · 22-01-2013, 10:33

So, PP got me a free code for this game and I spent yesterday evening exploring teh possibilities. It seems like a very decent game though the learning curve is indeed steep, and the in game help is non-existant!

I started a game as Holland and that lasted just 10 years. Here's what happened: I got a "build army quest" and so I built armies, set research to govenrment and sent out traders to Antwerpen and Lübeck. Money was good and my relations to my Dutch neighbours very decent.
So far, so good. Now, in just 3 years of Play, micghty Burgundy declares war without CB on Brabant and Liege, conquering them with ease. They then go on to take Utrecht and are attacking Gelre... Their army is massive and though I am pretty well defended there seems no way I can take them on, or am I missing something here? I am at peace with them but for how long?

Othe rproblems:

My prestige is -5,0 per year without visible cause. do not get it...

I have 5 Magistrates, but what do they do?

I have a Navy, but it sits in port, what good can they do?

03-10-2012, 09:50	#1
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	OK, Starting a new game, England, 1399. Stability slider full right and troops started in overseas states. Merchants sent to core and some stability advisors hired. Unpause. I get the conquer Ireland mission, seems like as good a start as any. Build up some troops and push into Ireland. Or try to. Spend 10 minutes trying to work out how to get troops into a boat, before working out that transports work as a kind of bridge and have to be in open water before you can move troops to them. Anyways. Will cut a long story short. I occupy all 4 Irish provinces with troops and siege their forts. I beat all forts and then wonder if I really need to wait 50 years to gain the province... More scratching of heads. I get offered lots of peace requests from Irish provinces but unsure whether they'll give me their province (they seem to involve me paying them!) I decline all. In a moment of inspiration I look at offering them peace and see a nice shiny option called Annex. Swiftly pushing on I take the whole of Ireland, go Team! An un-pause later and I win my first mission. Prestige is getting high, I'm number 1 in the world Infamy is just over 7, apparently my reputation is tarnished. Next mission, Scotland! Thankfully they're not allied with France anymore (not sure when that stopped) and sometime during the fight with Ireland I allied with Burgundy. I keep getting peace requests from some places in Europe, I decline them all, will wait until Burgundy stops fighting them before I peace up. I move my army across from Ireland to Scotland and kill the Scottish army. I move troops to all provinces and lay siege to their forts. Then I had to get off the train in London for work today, so that's it for now. I checked my ledger just now. It's November 1402. I have 7.5 Infamy (3rd biggest badass! ) I have 97 Prestige (No.1 baby ) Stability is 3 __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

03-10-2012, 10:16	#3
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	I couldn't see where to change the difficulty level, so I guess I'm playing Normal. Where would you go in the interface to annex something outside of peace? __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

03-10-2012, 10:20	#4
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	If you capture a colony that isn't autonomous, the "scorch the earth" button (in the army box) changes to "seize colony". This is especially useful when you're invading America, since a lot of the indian lands are basically colonies. Also, I noticed you're playing HTTTTTTTT, not Divine Wind. Why? __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

03-10-2012, 10:42	#5
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	Cos I bought the Complete Pack to start with, then bought the upgrade the HttT. Is it worth the upgrade again to DW? __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

03-10-2012, 11:01	#6
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	I don't know actually. Maybe when it's on a discount. See the differences, unless you want to play Japan or China it seems like minor tweaks. It's worth keeping in mind that a lot of costs and benefits are different between HTTT and DW though. Funny, one of the changes concerns Personal Unions. Getting a PU isn't that difficult, but getting something out of it is. I got into a PU with three province Brabant, and because I was bored I integrated it (which is a feature of DW) into the evil french empire. Now I read that I should've waited until I inherited that lousy part of Europe, because then I'd have gotten cores on those provinces. Now all I have are rebels (good for army tradition). __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

08-10-2012, 16:48	#7
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	I have taken up Mel's challenge and started playing Brabant with the goal of forming the Netherlands. This is hard. Brabant is supposed to be medium difficulty level, I'll steer clear from hard for a long while then. After a few test games I quickly learned you can't just conquer and annex your way into supremacy like you can with Castille. The game i played for 75 years now started with Burgundy declaring war on me right from the get go. I had to scramble allies whereever I could and play ring around the rosie for quite a while to avoid having my army annihilated. Eventually I made my way to Burgundy and bordering provinces while my allies entertained Burgundies main army. Even after I conquered all provinces burgundy refused any decent peace and they where to large to annex. FInally ended up with Flanders, 2 other useless provinces near burgundies capital, 5 loans and a ruined economy. Great. After a few years the emperor starts demanding I liberate my newly acquired provinces. Even better. I'm now in a PU with HOlland, have flanders and Cleve vassalised and Zeeland annexed. Utrecht is gonna be a pain, they have allies and independence garantuees coming out of their ears. __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

16-10-2012, 16:42	#8
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	OK EU3 is officially my most favourite game ever I decided to try some games on Very Easy. Lame but true. Currently enjoying a fantastic romp as the Scottish, just about managed to completely take over the English and remove them from the game. Managed to get my Infamy to 90 I think it was (when my Inf Cap was around 55!). Everyone really really hates me Rebellions and revolts popping up all over the place. Stability up and down like a yo-yo and magistrates and generals defecting. Managed to repel a mass invasion of France, Castille and Portugal Allied with the revolts popping up all over England and Ireland. Have released everyone (Wales, Cornwall and the Irish states) as Vassals to try and reduce the Infamy and have had my country collapse once (which seems to do nothing much? Might have screwed my Legitimacy but that was screwed anyway) Oh and at my worst point and highest infamy I suddenly got made the Papal Controller, that made me laugh Yee-haw 40 years until I core central England and make Great Britain as the Scots (thanks for the idea Shabba!). Just have to see if I can survive that long as revolts of 24,000 men are not funny... PS. Fun fact, declare war on the English and you often get an event happen called The Highlanders Arrive an extra 12,000 troops you say? Yummy. Also Resist the English Double Forcelimit modifier and Double the manpower? Someone really didn't like England in the 15th Century __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

16-10-2012, 18:12	#9
Shabbaman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Costa La Haya Posts: 8,494	OK, I'll play Scotland next. Or Ireland. __________________ "Our spam is backed with COMETS!"

22-01-2013, 10:33	#10
Kingreno Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands. Posts: 3,270	So, PP got me a free code for this game and I spent yesterday evening exploring teh possibilities. It seems like a very decent game though the learning curve is indeed steep, and the in game help is non-existant! I started a game as Holland and that lasted just 10 years. Here's what happened: I got a "build army quest" and so I built armies, set research to govenrment and sent out traders to Antwerpen and Lübeck. Money was good and my relations to my Dutch neighbours very decent. So far, so good. Now, in just 3 years of Play, micghty Burgundy declares war without CB on Brabant and Liege, conquering them with ease. They then go on to take Utrecht and are attacking Gelre... Their army is massive and though I am pretty well defended there seems no way I can take them on, or am I missing something here? I am at peace with them but for how long? Othe rproblems: My prestige is -5,0 per year without visible cause. do not get it... I have 5 Magistrates, but what do they do? I have a Navy, but it sits in port, what good can they do? __________________ Go ahead punk. Make my day.