CDZ fall 2008 meeting - Page 6

Matrix · 03-10-2008, 00:12

Hey Killer, I'm rather late with this suggestion, but you could consider coming over on friday to my place and go to Amersfoort from here. It's ~100 minutes from Groningen to Amersfoort.

Lt. Killer M · 03-10-2008, 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrix

Hey Killer, I'm rather late with this suggestion, but you could consider coming over on friday to my place and go to Amersfoort from here. It's ~100 minutes from Groningen to Amersfoort.

Maarten, thanks for the offer - Stapel made a very similar one, too. I simply can't leave Rita for two nights right now. So it is an early drive on Saturday for me.

ProPain · 03-10-2008, 00:24

My secretary was kind enough to fix a description how to reach our office. It's in dutch however so I;ll do a quick translations tomorrow.

For those who have navigation in their cars/use internet for routes:

CQ procesmanagement
printerweg 16
Amersfoort
0031 33 4555322

Matrix · 03-10-2008, 00:26

And...Civ4 works on the computers there!

(is what ProPain just told me)

By the way, the train arrives at 9:38 or 10:08 for me. What do you prefer?

Rik Meleet · 03-10-2008, 18:47

I need some public transport guidance.

Beam · 03-10-2008, 19:13

So no need to bring a computer or software? And checking the map the office is very close to railway station De Hoef?

What sleeping gear do we need to bring?

ProPain · 03-10-2008, 22:08

POsted answers to your questions here:

http://www.civduelzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4732

Matrix · 06-10-2008, 01:34

Well, that was fun, just as always.

Even though this was the first time I stayed sober.

The office was an excellent hosting site, by the way. There is enough space and are enough computers to play a game with eighteen players next time.

I'll post my two pictures later.

I do notice we consistently run in a number of problems and would like to do a few suggestions for next time:
Stapel should've run over me in the second game, but he had a serious problem with the turn timer. Also, I'm afraid I might be a little more skilled in handling the interface: I'm quick, hardly ever misclick, think about using stack attack, that sort of things. But that is something that ought not matter. It wouldn't matter if - sorry, here I come again - we'd play turn based. That is, agree to move in sequence in war-time. (Playing turn based during peace is just a waste of time.)

Also, I often had to cut off trading with Rik prematurely, because he was so slow (<=drunk) and I had other stuff to do.

Two major reasons not to use a turn timer. However, without one it often happens that people do not realise they are holding up the game. I don't know the solution, but I'd say no turn timer is the lesser of two evils. We might agree to consistently remind the last one playing that we're waiting for him. That way a reminder can be expected and is thus not pushy and annoying.

My other problem is that the map was way too balanced in terms of shape. Next time I prefer a normal random map. Unbalanced, yea, but now it was just a game of 'pick your target'. A normal map is much more dynamic, unpredictable and forces people to find unconventional solutions and be creative. Ironically, a lesser balanced map makes diplomacy more important!

Now it seemed like we waited forever for a climax and once finally something happened we used that as a good excuse to start a new game.

The temptation to play Sim City on your own piece of land is too big.

Long text, but don't let it give you the feeling I didn't have a great time in Amersfoort! [wink smiley that can't be pictured because I already have four in this post]

Shabbaman · 06-10-2008, 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrix

because he was so slow (<=drunk)

Lt. Killer M · 06-10-2008, 10:03

Hey all, this was great! Too short (no blame on PP; I fully understand), we should have started on Friday evening (though I would not have been able to come).

I agree with Matrix that the first game was a bit of a 'leave me alone - builder' game. Still, razing Ommen was fun

Let's meet again soon!

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03-10-2008, 00:12	#51
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	Hey Killer, I'm rather late with this suggestion, but you could consider coming over on friday to my place and go to Amersfoort from here. It's ~100 minutes from Groningen to Amersfoort. __________________

03-10-2008, 00:24	#53
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	My secretary was kind enough to fix a description how to reach our office. It's in dutch however so I;ll do a quick translations tomorrow. For those who have navigation in their cars/use internet for routes: CQ procesmanagement printerweg 16 Amersfoort 0031 33 4555322 __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

03-10-2008, 00:26	#54
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	And...Civ4 works on the computers there! (is what ProPain just told me) By the way, the train arrives at 9:38 or 10:08 for me. What do you prefer? __________________ Last edited by Matrix; 03-10-2008 at 00:30.

03-10-2008, 18:47	#55
Rik Meleet Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nijmegen, Netherlands. Posts: 2,504	I need some public transport guidance. __________________ Social life ? Sounds like fun !! Where can I download that ?

03-10-2008, 19:13	#56
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	So no need to bring a computer or software? And checking the map the office is very close to railway station De Hoef? What sleeping gear do we need to bring? __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

03-10-2008, 22:08	#57
ProPain Customized Admin :) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sailing the seas of cheese. Posts: 5,852	POsted answers to your questions here: http://www.civduelzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4732 __________________ I fed my Dog the American Dream Well, he rolled over and he started to scream He said, I dig the taste of salt but it don't keep me alive yeah, yeah

06-10-2008, 01:34	#58
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	Well, that was fun, just as always. Even though this was the first time I stayed sober. The office was an excellent hosting site, by the way. There is enough space and are enough computers to play a game with eighteen players next time. I'll post my two pictures later. I do notice we consistently run in a number of problems and would like to do a few suggestions for next time: Stapel should've run over me in the second game, but he had a serious problem with the turn timer. Also, I'm afraid I might be a little more skilled in handling the interface: I'm quick, hardly ever misclick, think about using stack attack, that sort of things. But that is something that ought not matter. It wouldn't matter if - sorry, here I come again - we'd play turn based. That is, agree to move in sequence in war-time. (Playing turn based during peace is just a waste of time.) Also, I often had to cut off trading with Rik prematurely, because he was so slow (<=drunk) and I had other stuff to do. Two major reasons not to use a turn timer. However, without one it often happens that people do not realise they are holding up the game. I don't know the solution, but I'd say no turn timer is the lesser of two evils. We might agree to consistently remind the last one playing that we're waiting for him. That way a reminder can be expected and is thus not pushy and annoying. My other problem is that the map was way too balanced in terms of shape. Next time I prefer a normal random map. Unbalanced, yea, but now it was just a game of 'pick your target'. A normal map is much more dynamic, unpredictable and forces people to find unconventional solutions and be creative. Ironically, a lesser balanced map makes diplomacy more important! Now it seemed like we waited forever for a climax and once finally something happened we used that as a good excuse to start a new game. The temptation to play Sim City on your own piece of land is too big. Long text, but don't let it give you the feeling I didn't have a great time in Amersfoort! [wink smiley that can't be pictured because I already have four in this post] __________________ Last edited by Matrix; 06-10-2008 at 01:38.

06-10-2008, 10:03	#60
Lt. Killer M Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: HAWK!. Posts: 4,365	Hey all, this was great! Too short (no blame on PP; I fully understand), we should have started on Friday evening (though I would not have been able to come). I agree with Matrix that the first game was a bit of a 'leave me alone - builder' game. Still, razing Ommen was fun Let's meet again soon! __________________ One more turn..... just one more turn... one MORE!