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08-06-2006, 00:46 | #1 |
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World Cup Futures game
You guys have me all fired up for World Cup action so I thought we'd try a different kind of game. There's a website that trades the futures prices on each team so I thought we'd play along.
Here's how it works.... Everyone gets 500 euros. No fractional purchases, rounding will always be down and I hope you'll help me to keep your account straight. The beauty is you can jump in the game at any point but those building profits early will have an advantage. Ultimately all prices will end at either 0 or 100 but will change every day during the Cup. I'll keep the daily prices by posting them once a day(unless someone in Europe wants to help me). I'm GMT -5 so I'll update the market prices at midnight GMT. You can buy (long) at the ask and sell at the bid. This means you can sell a country short as well. Two examples: Let say you buy (long) 9 Brazil at 52 this costs you 468 invested and 32 Euros in cash however if you sold 9 Brazil you'd receive 51 or 459 Euros. On a short you want the price of that team to go down. But be careful because you can't lose more than the cash (or long "buy positions") you have and the next days offer will be used to calculate your short position meaning your cash balance will rise or fall daily if you short sell. For instance if you have 500 euros and sell short 20 units at 15 (300 euros invested and 200 in cash) and the price goes up to 25you're wiped out or have to sell one of your "buy positions" to cover. I will mark to market daily against your cash if you short sell a team. Meaning don't run into a team that's rising daily or it will hurt you cash and possibly force you to sell a long position. I'm going to eliminate some of the weaker teams so you can't trade them. You'll also note that some teams have a wider bid offer spread since they are less actively traded so be careful trading these teams. As Propain more succintly put it here's how trades can be done. you can buy at last midnights prices untill todays matches start. When the 1st match starts the market closes and reopens at next midnight GMT. Current market prices Bid Offer and daily change [code] http://www.tradesports.com/aav2/trad...wExpired=false Green = big up move Red = big down move Code:
Bid Offer Chge [b]Trade WC.BRAZIL.INDEX Bid 51.4 offer 52.0 unchanged 6/8 closing prices Bid 51.1 Offer 52.0 unchanged 6/9 closing prices 51.0 51.5 -0.5 6/10 closing prices 51.2 51.5 unchanged 6/11 closing prices 50.0 51.5 unchanged 6/12 closing prices 50.5 51.0 -0.5 6/13 closing prices 52.1 55.0 +4.0 6/14 closing prices 50.3 51.6 -3.4 6/15 closing prices 50.0 50.8 -0.8 6/16 closing prices 49.5 50.0 -0.8 6/17 closing prices 48.2 49.8 -0.2 6/18 closing prices 49.0 50.0 +0.2 6/19 closing prices 49.2 49.8 -0.2 6/20 closing prices 48.5 49.6 -0.2 6/21 closing prices 47.5 48.2 -1.4 6/22 closing prices 51.0 54.0 +5.8 6/24 closing price 52.5 54.5 6/25 closing prices 54.7 55.5 +1.0 Trade WC.ENGLAND.INDEX 34.3 34.5 6/8 closing prices 33.5 34.0 +0.5 6/9 closing prices 34.7 37.3 +3.3 6/10 closing prices 38.7 38.8 +1.5 6/11 closing prices 38.2 38.8 unchanged 6/12 closing prices 38.0 38.2 -0.6 6/13 closing prices 38.0 38.2 unch 6/14 closing prices 38.2 38.9 +0.7 6/15 closing prices 38.7 39.4 +0.5 6/16 closing prices 37.3 37.5 -1.9 6/17 closing prices 36.0 38.0 +0.5 6/18 closing prices 36.5 37.8 -0.2 6/19 closing prices 37.0 37.6 -0.2 6/20 closing prices 38.0 41.0 +3.4 6/21 closing prices 39.0 40.8 -0.2 6/22 closing prices 39.6 40.3 -0.5 6/24 closing price 46.2 47.5 +7.2 6/25 closing prices 47.8 48.0 +0.5 Trade WC.GERMANY.INDEX 33.2 33.4 6/8 closing prices 33.2 33.6 +0.3 6/9 closing prices 34.2 36.8 +3.2 6/10 closing prices 34.7 36.0 -0.8 6/11 closing prices 34.8 35.5 -0.5 6/12 closing prices 34.8 35.0 -0.5 6/13 closing prices 34.0 35.0 unch 6/14 closing prices ..... 6/15 closing prices 34.5 37.5 +2.5 6/16 closing prices 33.5 35.0 -2.5 6/17 closing prices 34.2 34.8 -0.2 6/18 closing prices 33.5 34.8 unch 6/19 closing prices 33.5 35.0 +0.2 6/20 closing prices 36.5 39.0 +4.0 6/21 closing prices 38.0 38.5 -0.5 6/22 closing prices 36.5 38.5 unch 6/24 closing price 48.2 48.8 +10.3 6/25 closing prices 47.7 48.3 -0.5 Trade WC.FRANCE.INDEX 31.5 32.0 6/8 closing prices 31.7 32.1 +0.1 6/9 closing prices 31.6 32.0 -0.1 6/10 closing prices 31.5 32.0 unch 6/11 closing prices 31.8 32.0 unch 6/12 closing prices 31.3 31.5 -0.5 6/13 closing prices 26.0 29.0 -2.5 6/14 closing prices 26.3 26.8 -2.2 6/15 closing prices 25.7 26.8 unch 6/16 closing prices 25.2 26.0 -0.8 6/17 closing prices 25.2 25.8 -0.2 6/18 closing prices 17.5 18.0 -7.8 6/19 closing prices 18.0 19.0 +1.0 6/20 closing prices 18.5 19.3 +0.3 6/21 closing prices 18.5 19.3 unch 6/22 closing prices 18.8 19.8 +0.5 6/24 closing price 23.5 24.0 +4.2 6/25 closing prices 22.7 23.3 -0.7 Trade WC.ARGENTINA.INDEX 31.2 31.8 6/8 closing prices 32.3 32.9 +1.1 6/9 closing prices 31.8 32.0 -0.9 6/10 closing prices 31.5 32.0 unch 6/11 closing prices 34.2 37.0 +5.0 6/12 closing prices 37.5 38.0 +1.0 6/13 closing prices 38.0 38.5 +0.5 6/14 closing prices 38.0 38.5 unch 6/15 closing prices 39.0 39.3 +0.8 6/16 closing prices 46.2 47.5 +8.2 6/17 closing prices 46.4 47.0 -0.5 6/18 closing prices 47.0 48.5 +1.5 6/19 closing prices 47.2 49.0 +0.5 6/20 closing prices 47.2 48.5 -0.5 6/21 closing prices 45.7 49.0 +0.5 6/22 closing prices 49.5 51.3 +2.3 6/24 closing price 51.2 52.8 +1.5 6/25 closing prices 50.7 52.5 -0.3 Trade WC.ITALY.INDEX 28.2 28.5 6/8 closing prices 28.0 28.3 -0.2 6/9 closing prices 28.2 28.5 +0.2 6/10 closing prices 28.2 28.5 unch 6/11 closing prices 28.4 28.5 unch 6/12 closing prices 31.0 34.0 +5.5 6/13 closing prices 32.0 33.5 -0.5 6/14 closing prices 31.0 32.0 -1.5 6/15 closing prices 31.0 33.0 +1.0 6/16 closing prices 31.7 32.8 -0.2 6/17 closing prices 25.0 40.0 not accurate 6/18 closing prices 29.0 30.0 -2.8 6/19 closing prices 29.2 30.8 +0.8 6/20 closing prices 30.0 30.5 -0.3 6/21 closing prices 29.2 30.0 -0.5 6/22 closing prices 41.0 43.0 +13 [eek] 6/24 closing price 43.5 44.5 +1.5 6/25 closing prices 53.7 55.3 +10.8 Trade WC.PORTUGAL.INDEX 24.2 24.8 6/8 closing prices 24.2 25.0 +0.2 6/9 closing prices 24.4 25.0 unch 6/10 closing prices 24.2 24.8 -0.2 6/11 closing prices 23.0 25.0 +0.2 6/12 closing prices 23.8 24.5 -0.5 6/13 closing prices 23.9 24.5 unch 6/14 closing prices 23.8 24.0 -0.5 6/15 closing prices 23.2 24.0 unch 6/16 closing prices 21.2 23.0 -1.0 6/17 closing prices 24.0 26.0 +3.0 6/18 closing prices 24.2 25.0 -1.0 6/19 closing prices 24.2 25.0 unch 6/20 closing prices 24.0 24.5 -0.5 6/21 closing prices 24.5 25.8 +1.3 6/22 closing prices 24.2 25.3 -0.5 6/24 closing prices 40.0 43 +17.7 6/25 closing prices 38.7 39.3 -3.7 Trade WC.SPAIN.INDEX 27.5 28.0 6/8 closing prices 27.5 27.9 -0.1 6/9 closing prices 27.5 28.0 +0.1 6/10 closing prices 27.5 28.0 unch 6/11 closing prices 27.5 28.0 unch 6/12 closing prices 28.0 28.5 +0.5 6/13 closing prices 27.5 28.5 unch 6/14 closing prices 33.9 35.3 +6.8 6/15 closing prices 34.2 35.3 unch 6/16 closing prices 34.0 35.3 6/17 closing prices 34.0 35.3 6/18 closing prices 34.0 35.3 6/19 closing prices 33.0 40.0 +4.7 6/20 closing prices 35.2 35.8 -4.2 6/21 closing prices 35.0 35.8 unch 6/22 closing prices 34.0 35.3 -0.5 6/24 closing prices 30.2 32.0 -3.3 6/25 closing prices 31.5 32.0 unch Trade WC.UKRAINE.INDEX 15.2 16.0 0 6/8 closing prices 15.2 16.0 unch 6/9 closing prices 15.4 16.0 unch 6/10 closing prices 15.4 16.0 unch 6/11 closing prices 15.6 16.0 unch 6/12 closing prices 15.8 16.5 0.5 6/13 closing prices 15.5 16.5 unch 6/14 closing prices 11.2 12.0 -4.5 6/15 closing prices 11.0 13.0 +1.0 6/16 closing prices 11.2 14.0 +1.0 6/17 closing prices 11.0 13.0 -1.0 6/18 closing prices 12.0 13.0 6/19 closing prices - - 15.7 +2.7 6/20 closing prices 18.5 20.0 +4.3 6/21 closing prices 18.7 20.0 unch 6/22 closing prices 18.0 20.0 unch 6/24 clsoing prices 21.0 22.0 +2 6/25 closing prices 30.5 32.5 +10.5 Trade WC.GHANA.INDEX 6/18 closing price 9.5 11.5 6/19 closing price 10.0 10.5 -1.0 Code:
6/20 closing prices 10.2 11.5 +1.0 6/21 closing prices 10.0 12.0 +0.5 6/22 closing prices 15.0 16.0 +4.0 6/24 closing prices 13.0 14.5 -1.5 6/25 closing prices 13.0 13.5 -1.0 Investors barbu1977 1 cash BCLG100 Trades sell long 11 England * 48.5 = 533.50 sell short 14 Portugal * 534.80 (1.30) cash proceeds [u]Current Holdings</u> short 14 Portugal * 38.2 = 534.80 short 4 France * 22.7 = 90.80 cash 20.40 - 1.30 proceeds = 19.10 Dell19 trades sell long 5 Ukraine * 32 = 160 sell short 2 Ukraine * 32 = 64 cash proceeds 96 [u]Current Holdings</u> Long 3 England @ 47.50 = 142.50 Long 2 Germany @33.6 = 67.20 Long 4 Spain @ 27.9 = 111.60 Cash at 86.30 + 96 proceeds = 182.30 cash Digger [u]Current Holdings</u> Short Ukraine 10 @ 12 = 120 short 8 Argentina * 405.6 Cash 25.9 Melifluous [u]Current holdings</u> Trades cash was 146 short 4 Ukraine * 32 = 128 Cash 18 [u]Current holdings</u> short 4 Ukraine * 32 = 128 Cash 18 Mistfit [u]Current holdings</u> Cash 316.20 Robboo Trades sell 4 Brazil @ 61.2 = 244.80 sell 2 England @ 48.5 = 97 sell 2 Germany @ 48.7 = 97.40 sell 2 Argentina @ 50.7 = 101.4 proceeds = 540.60 cash 87.20 + 540.60 = 627.80 Sell short 12 England * 48.5 = 582 cash 45.80 [u]Current holdings</u> short 12 England * 48.5 = 582 cash 45.80 romeothemonk Trades Cash 2916.40 Short 25 Ukraine * 32 = 800 [u]Current holdings</u> short 25 Ukraine * 32 = 800 Cash 2116.40 socralynnek [u]Current Holdings</u> long 4 WC.Germany.Index @ 33.60 = 268.80 cash 240 Tubby RowerAdjust [u]Current holdings</u> Cash 462.70 kryszcztov Was also cruising along with 699.20 but got wiped out shorting the USA. Propain Was winning with 777.10 but got wiped out shorting USA
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08-06-2006, 00:52 | #2 |
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So can i buy England?---ill buy that
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08-06-2006, 00:54 | #3 |
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I'll buy chzech rep.
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08-06-2006, 00:55 | #4 |
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You can buy anything you want. You can buy one team, multiple teams and you can also short teams as well. Tell my how many units you want to buy or short on each country. I will update your account on the OP.
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08-06-2006, 00:56 | #5 |
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i'd like to buy as much of England as i can
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08-06-2006, 01:08 | #6 |
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I'll then buy 13 WC.CZECH.REP.INDEX *19 = 247
and 21 WC.CROATIA.INDEX *12 = 252 And I'll keep 1$ in the bank
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08-06-2006, 01:09 | #7 |
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Done you're long 14 England and have 24 in the bank.
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08-06-2006, 01:19 | #8 |
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I have some difficulties understanding this game... Care to explain me more ?
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08-06-2006, 01:22 | #9 |
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I want long italy for all my loot
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08-06-2006, 01:23 | #10 |
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So do prices go up if a team win a game etc?
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