And today I get broadband!

Black_Waltz · 26-01-2005, 19:44

Gosh... I never thought this day would come... Living in the wilds of Scotland I thought that my internet was going to be kept to crummy 56k... But finally it became avalible... And now I have it!

Gosh. It really is fast when compared to dial up. Non-cached pages load as fast as anything. It's just wonderful. And online gaming! Yay! I will still play PBEM's but now my horizon is broadened...

So Civ 3. What is non-PBEM multiplayer like? Good fun? What about other online games? My computer isn't the best and I don't have a video card so my selection is rather limited. But any suggestions would be good.

Anyway, sorry for rambling. Just insanely happy.

Ginger_Ale · 26-01-2005, 20:05

Non-PBEM multiplayer? I don't like it too much - well, that depends. Unless you set up a game for a certain date ahead of time with a set group of people (or a select person), going into the lobby and joining a random game isn't too smart. However, if you set up a game outside of the lobby and agree on a time and all you have is Conquests open (little lag), it can be good - the games will last not too incredibly long; it'll probably take you at least 2 sessions to finish a game though (a mp session = ~1 hour, 30 mins for me). I had fun doing a MP game with Paalikles (and CivGeneral) earlier with C3C.

Congrats, as well.

Black_Waltz · 26-01-2005, 20:57

Yes. I'm guessing I will have to get used to setting up games and such. There are many an internet moron out there. *sighs* But I'm guessing that both this site and Civfanatics have a largeish body of people looking for MP games?

Matrix · 26-01-2005, 22:20

Civ3 online is rather attention demanding, since you only get notices of certain events in the upper left corner. That can be quite annoying. But I still prefer it above SP and PBEM, because of the speed.

By the way, you remind me of the joy I had the first days I had broadband.

Now it's not joy, it's a necessity.

Beam · 26-01-2005, 22:31

Congrats!

There are people who have to go to hospital after a LAN-party weekend

Seriously, even PBEM is much better with broadband, specially when you get in the IA and / or are one of KRs labrats playing maps "slightly larger than large"

As you most likely will get a fixed IP install a solid firewall and learn how it works. I switched from NIS to Zonelabs some months ago and although Program Control is a little more work with Zonelabs they have a very good forum for everything you always wanted to know about firewalls but didn't dare to ask for.

Pastorius · 26-01-2005, 22:47

Or try out Trend Micro's Internet Security. Also good, and AFAIK less expensive than NIS (greedy bastards

)

digger760 · 27-01-2005, 09:25

What I dont like about online civ:

No city pop ups when you build something, so the city just builds what it wants after that.
It can be very stressing to get all your moves in in the alotted time
If you are in diplo with somebody, the game moves on in the back ground
In similtanoues moves to opposing stacks could be attacking each other..make it awkward to plan attacks
In general the play style is very different. I think you'd be better of playing rise of nations which is designed for real-time play.

Online Civ is very demanding. In my experience most people drop out. But one gaemn started with 5, 1 dropped out at the start but we stayed going. But my i attacked my niegbour in the ancient age and while i had the better of him he wanted all my tech for peace, which i refused. We battled on for 4 hours. I was exausted. After 4 hours i had Cavalry and riflemen, my enemy had mustateers...but another guy had infantry. But once our second payer dropped they all dropped, leaving me alone...and the winner (kinf of)

Pastorius · 27-01-2005, 09:39

Agree on the tendency to drop. myself, I have too many issues with firewalls etc to have a stable linkup to gamespy (Col's sig is so true)

But I would like to second a recommendation of Rise of Nations for online multiplayer. That is a nice game for waging war on your friends and enemies

Black_Waltz · 27-01-2005, 21:34

Yuck. People just giving up?

Well I may look out for the Rise of Nations, I suppose. I'm just itching to have some real fun multiplayer games. :-p

Matrix · 27-01-2005, 22:57

You shouldn't just play in a game from the lobby!

I'd ask people from CDZ or CFC to play if I were you.

26-01-2005, 19:44	#1
Black_Waltz Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 138	And today I get broadband! Gosh... I never thought this day would come... Living in the wilds of Scotland I thought that my internet was going to be kept to crummy 56k... But finally it became avalible... And now I have it! Gosh. It really is fast when compared to dial up. Non-cached pages load as fast as anything. It's just wonderful. And online gaming! Yay! I will still play PBEM's but now my horizon is broadened... So Civ 3. What is non-PBEM multiplayer like? Good fun? What about other online games? My computer isn't the best and I don't have a video card so my selection is rather limited. But any suggestions would be good. Anyway, sorry for rambling. Just insanely happy. __________________ \"Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer, We\'ll keep the red flag flying here.\" The Red Flag

26-01-2005, 20:57	#3
Black_Waltz Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 138	Yes. I'm guessing I will have to get used to setting up games and such. There are many an internet moron out there. sighs But I'm guessing that both this site and Civfanatics have a largeish body of people looking for MP games? __________________ \"Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer, We\'ll keep the red flag flying here.\" The Red Flag

26-01-2005, 22:20	#4
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	Civ3 online is rather attention demanding, since you only get notices of certain events in the upper left corner. That can be quite annoying. But I still prefer it above SP and PBEM, because of the speed. By the way, you remind me of the joy I had the first days I had broadband. Now it's not joy, it's a necessity. __________________

26-01-2005, 22:31	#5
Beam c00l b33r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beat 'm up Scotty!. Lives in the Lands that are Nether. Posts: 5,094	Congrats! There are people who have to go to hospital after a LAN-party weekend Seriously, even PBEM is much better with broadband, specially when you get in the IA and / or are one of KRs labrats playing maps "slightly larger than large" As you most likely will get a fixed IP install a solid firewall and learn how it works. I switched from NIS to Zonelabs some months ago and although Program Control is a little more work with Zonelabs they have a very good forum for everything you always wanted to know about firewalls but didn't dare to ask for. __________________ That was a pretty good gamble. -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 Linux never looked this good!

26-01-2005, 22:47	#6
Pastorius Custard used tile Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Opening a can Posts: 3,158	Or try out Trend Micro's Internet Security. Also good, and AFAIK less expensive than NIS (greedy bastards ) __________________

26-01-2005, 20:05	#2
Ginger_Ale Prince Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: America. Posts: 501	Non-PBEM multiplayer? I don't like it too much - well, that depends. Unless you set up a game for a certain date ahead of time with a set group of people (or a select person), going into the lobby and joining a random game isn't too smart. However, if you set up a game outside of the lobby and agree on a time and all you have is Conquests open (little lag), it can be good - the games will last not too incredibly long; it'll probably take you at least 2 sessions to finish a game though (a mp session = ~1 hour, 30 mins for me). I had fun doing a MP game with Paalikles (and CivGeneral) earlier with C3C. Congrats, as well.

27-01-2005, 09:25	#7
digger760 King Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Fake Dog Poo Factory. Posts: 1,887	What I dont like about online civ: No city pop ups when you build something, so the city just builds what it wants after that. It can be very stressing to get all your moves in in the alotted time If you are in diplo with somebody, the game moves on in the back ground In similtanoues moves to opposing stacks could be attacking each other..make it awkward to plan attacks In general the play style is very different. I think you'd be better of playing rise of nations which is designed for real-time play. Online Civ is very demanding. In my experience most people drop out. But one gaemn started with 5, 1 dropped out at the start but we stayed going. But my i attacked my niegbour in the ancient age and while i had the better of him he wanted all my tech for peace, which i refused. We battled on for 4 hours. I was exausted. After 4 hours i had Cavalry and riflemen, my enemy had mustateers...but another guy had infantry. But once our second payer dropped they all dropped, leaving me alone...and the winner (kinf of)

27-01-2005, 09:39	#8
Pastorius Custard used tile Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Opening a can Posts: 3,158	Agree on the tendency to drop. myself, I have too many issues with firewalls etc to have a stable linkup to gamespy (Col's sig is so true) But I would like to second a recommendation of Rise of Nations for online multiplayer. That is a nice game for waging war on your friends and enemies __________________

27-01-2005, 21:34	#9
Black_Waltz Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 138	Yuck. People just giving up? Well I may look out for the Rise of Nations, I suppose. I'm just itching to have some real fun multiplayer games. :-p __________________ \"Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer, We\'ll keep the red flag flying here.\" The Red Flag

27-01-2005, 22:57	#10
Matrix Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 4,828	You shouldn't just play in a game from the lobby! I'd ask people from CDZ or CFC to play if I were you. __________________