What to do when you have PTW and C3C PBEMs...?

ERIKK · 10-12-2003, 12:05

I heard ptw and c3c dont run together on one machine. For me that
sucks as I have both ptw and c3c games going on. The only solution I
see atm is shutting down and starting up both again and again bcoz
loading a ptw pbem in c3c messes up the upgrading and corruption of
that game (you suddenly play a ptw game with c3c rules). And other-
wise is afaik not possible.

Does anybody see more options? How do you handle it?

anarres · 10-12-2003, 12:47

In what way are they not compatable? Why can't you run up PTW and load a game in to that when you have C3C installed?

I run both with no issues...

col · 10-12-2003, 13:06

I'm running all three civs side by side with no problems at all! I have three different icons on the desktop. What is nice is that I only need the conquests disc in the drive- the vanilla civ and ptw are quite happy to accept it as a valid disk .

I havent tried to run all three simultaneously if thats what you mean, Erik.

ERIKK · 10-12-2003, 13:24

I mean that people told me that you can't run ptw and c3c
simultaneously (I havent tried yet). So that you have to
quit c3c and load ptw to play a ptw PBEM game en than quit
ptw and load c3c to run a c3c PBEM game etc etc. I tried
loading a ptw PBEM game in c3c and noticed differences
(compared to when I loaded the same ptw PBEM save in ptw).
I think that when loading a ptw pbem game in c3c you not
use the origenal 'old' ptw rules but the new c3c rules
(with the corruption bug in it).

Also c3c crashed when I tried to set my picture from neutral
to angry towards Col in the diplomacy screen (in the same ptw
PBEM game as mentioned above)...

Is it clear now? Watch out loading your ptw pbems in c3c!!!!

Melifluous · 10-12-2003, 13:32

I have Windows XP on my laptop...

If I double-click on C3C it runs...
minimise and double-click on PTW and it doesn't run

However.

If you right click on PTW and click run as and then just click ok, it runs OK.

I have PTW and C3C running at the same time now...

Dunno about other OS, I dont have them and cant test it.
Anarres may now more about what my machine is doing differently to help you if you dont have XP.

Hope this helps ...

Melifluous

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digger760 · 10-12-2003, 13:53

Also if you load a PTW PBEM with C3C the other player can't play it with PTW anymore.

I have WinXP laptop..let me try Mels little trick...hmmm nice, it works.

EDIT: Exiting seems a littel strange, my resolution went back to 1900x1200, and PTW was just a black screen, pressed escape though and PTW exited as well

EDIT2: Tried it again, both games exit as normal, no resolution changes

Mel, have you seen any problems while running both?

Lt. Killer M · 10-12-2003, 13:58

I alos can't run them both, simply because they start to s..t.a.g.g.e.....r......... to a halt, even if they do not crash windows. Also, quiting C3C after running PTW beforehand results in the monitor not resetting screen res properly - reboot!

Plux · 10-12-2003, 14:06

Thnx for the tip meli.. It didn't work for me just clicking ok, I had to run it as another user (adminsitrator in this case), because it couldn't create the same temp-files twice

Melifluous · 10-12-2003, 14:17

Ah OK,

I have my main user set up as a member of the administrator group so maybe that was the reason...

Melifluous

PS. Killer? I would have thought that after K8 you would have bought a better laptop or at the VERY least more RAM...

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Lt. Killer M · 10-12-2003, 14:46

meli, that laptop is still the fastest PC in the entire institute here, and my desktop PC with its 800 MHz will have to do.

10-12-2003, 12:05	#1
ERIKK Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands!. Posts: 2,636	What to do when you have PTW and C3C PBEMs...? I heard ptw and c3c dont run together on one machine. For me that sucks as I have both ptw and c3c games going on. The only solution I see atm is shutting down and starting up both again and again bcoz loading a ptw pbem in c3c messes up the upgrading and corruption of that game (you suddenly play a ptw game with c3c rules). And other- wise is afaik not possible. Does anybody see more options? How do you handle it?

10-12-2003, 12:47	#2
anarres anarchist butcher Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United States of Whatever. Posts: 4,677	In what way are they not compatable? Why can't you run up PTW and load a game in to that when you have C3C installed? I run both with no issues... __________________ <b>Calculate the probability of culture flips: Flip Calc</b>

10-12-2003, 13:06	#3
col King Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Sandwich Islands. Posts: 1,529	I'm running all three civs side by side with no problems at all! I have three different icons on the desktop. What is nice is that I only need the conquests disc in the drive- the vanilla civ and ptw are quite happy to accept it as a valid disk . I havent tried to run all three simultaneously if thats what you mean, Erik. __________________ I can't be arsed.

10-12-2003, 13:32	#5
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	I have Windows XP on my laptop... If I double-click on C3C it runs... minimise and double-click on PTW and it doesn't run However. If you right click on PTW and click run as and then just click ok, it runs OK. I have PTW and C3C running at the same time now... Dunno about other OS, I dont have them and cant test it. Anarres may now more about what my machine is doing differently to help you if you dont have XP. Hope this helps ... Melifluous [][][] __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

10-12-2003, 13:58	#7
Lt. Killer M Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: HAWK!. Posts: 4,365	I alos can't run them both, simply because they start to s..t.a.g.g.e.....r......... to a halt, even if they do not crash windows. Also, quiting C3C after running PTW beforehand results in the monitor not resetting screen res properly - reboot! __________________ One more turn..... just one more turn... one MORE!

10-12-2003, 13:24	#4
ERIKK Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands!. Posts: 2,636	I mean that people told me that you can't run ptw and c3c simultaneously (I havent tried yet). So that you have to quit c3c and load ptw to play a ptw PBEM game en than quit ptw and load c3c to run a c3c PBEM game etc etc. I tried loading a ptw PBEM game in c3c and noticed differences (compared to when I loaded the same ptw PBEM save in ptw). I think that when loading a ptw pbem game in c3c you not use the origenal 'old' ptw rules but the new c3c rules (with the corruption bug in it). Also c3c crashed when I tried to set my picture from neutral to angry towards Col in the diplomacy screen (in the same ptw PBEM game as mentioned above)... Is it clear now? Watch out loading your ptw pbems in c3c!!!!

10-12-2003, 13:53	#6
digger760 King Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Fake Dog Poo Factory. Posts: 1,887	Also if you load a PTW PBEM with C3C the other player can't play it with PTW anymore. I have WinXP laptop..let me try Mels little trick...hmmm nice, it works. EDIT: Exiting seems a littel strange, my resolution went back to 1900x1200, and PTW was just a black screen, pressed escape though and PTW exited as well EDIT2: Tried it again, both games exit as normal, no resolution changes Mel, have you seen any problems while running both?

10-12-2003, 14:06	#8
Plux King Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,214	Thnx for the tip meli.. It didn't work for me just clicking ok, I had to run it as another user (adminsitrator in this case), because it couldn't create the same temp-files twice

10-12-2003, 14:17	#9
Melifluous Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the bar with SF. Posts: 3,024	Ah OK, I have my main user set up as a member of the administrator group so maybe that was the reason... Melifluous PS. Killer? I would have thought that after K8 you would have bought a better laptop or at the VERY least more RAM... [][][] __________________ Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, It's divine to own a dick. From the tiniest little tadger To the world's biggest prick! So three cheers for your willy or John Thomas. Hooray for your one-eyed trousers snake.

10-12-2003, 14:46	#10
Lt. Killer M Emperor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: HAWK!. Posts: 4,365	meli, that laptop is still the fastest PC in the entire institute here, and my desktop PC with its 800 MHz will have to do. __________________ One more turn..... just one more turn... one MORE!