Is civ evolution the platform for the ladders you speak of, or a new game altogether? I'm in agreement with the useless graphics, lower playability argument, but as much as i hate to admit, civ 4 has awesome features like pitboss, same-tile unit cross-over, religions and tech tree versatility. That said, if we could have these features in civ 3, I'd rarely play civ 4 at all.
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